and i went up to princeton to meet james mcpherson, the great historian of the civil war. great battle cry of freedom. he was terrific, he was really very very engaging and very accommodating in terms of how he saw it and things like that. >> rose: but not world war ii, not world war i, not the war of 1812. it was the civil war that speaks to you as an object. >> i took on, i grew more interested and more interested. and i went to a gentleman, and he does every armament was used in the civil war and he showed me sherman. it was fantastic. >> rose: burned. >> finished the whole thing. >> rose: famously saying the war is hell. >> yes. >> rose: destroyed all the tracks and i think he may have said i'm not sure but the people are the ones who fight him. patton may have been an exception. do you remember he said i love it. >> he loved the war. >> rose: i think he loved command is what he loved, patton. and the challenge or napoleon probably loved it too. >> i think before you enter war or enter an army you think it's great to joint army. when you get there and you go through th

expressing it in ways different from those that others do. 1865 was the turning point in which james mcpherson and others call the second american revolution. the surrender at appomattox, the assassination of lincoln, the final approval of the 13th amendment, the beginning of the reconstruction congas and dickinson detective of this going on. 1865 got away with her most productive year poet. whether there's any synchronicity and then i don't know, but it is a moment when all american society was changing, becoming something radically different and she felt a burst of energy during the year. consider one poem she wrote that begins like this. revolution is upon systems rattle from. when the winds of will are stirred, excellences boom. in this stanza, she uses a natural advantage to eliminate a complicated social concept. she takes social revolution and juxtapose it with the image of a seed pod in winter. we've all seen dried up, waiting for spring rains and wind to break it open and spread the seeds to bloom in the following summer. the 17 words do a lot of work. now consider a tax that holds a