marshal is on the left, and james meredith is in the middle. it's a shot sometime when meredith entered the university of mississippi in 1962. >> and what's your role? >> i was the first assistant in the civil rights division at that time. i was asked to accompany james meredith when he entered the university. >> what was the significance of him entering the university of mississippi? >> well, no black student had ever gone to the university of mississippi. this was the first time. this was the first time any integration of schools in mississippi occurred. >> this was 1962. >> this was 1962. >> and what's the first memory that comes to mind about what happened in and around this episode? >> well, the trouble that occurred sunday night after meredith finally got on the campus. there was a bad situation. it got to a point where there was rioting, and it was fortunate that as few people got hurt as they did. >> two people were killed. >> two people were killed. >> and your role at that time was to do what around james meredith and how well did you

. >> the james meredith episode, i wouldn't call it a weakness, but maybe it was a sign of the times being old school and i've had experience with a lot of campaigns. most were not very memorable, but if you read, thinking about the james meredith episode reminded me of some perceptions in julie and david's eisenhower book coming to fwlory about eisenhower returning to gettysburg and there's clearly a lack of any interest in self-promotion in president eisenhower's demeanor and he clearly bristled, and the episode, and on the one hand he could say this was fairly predictionible, and no one at the time seemed to be giving him the credit he deserved. now with the hyper24-hour news cycles you would think that a more modern era of surrogates would be out addressing the contrast. there was nothing in the books that suggests that he was either chomping at the bit to get out before the cameras to call attention to the contrast which would have been fitted his legacy or that he was even calling folks together saying listen, can we get a strike team out to point out the contrast, and that wou

and the other one was james meredith doar, and george wallace doar, and by then have been had a good laugh at that. and when the meeting was over, i walked into his office and i said, we've got the names, burke doar. >> after burke marshall. >> after burke marshall. >> and you named him john burke doar. >> right. >> where is he today? >> i had breakfast with him, he drove back to his job in hartford, connecticut, he came down for that event last night. >> i want to run some audiotape, a conversation with j. edgar hoover, head of the fbi, and the president, lyndon baines johnson, you had become the assistant attorney general for civil rights, you moved up a notch. >> right. >> and we'll listen to a little bit of this and you can explain to people what they're hearing. >> mr. president -- >> yeah. >> -- i wanted to let you know we found the car. >> yeah. >> now, this is not known. nobody knows this at all. but the car was burned. and we do not know yet whether any bodies are inside of the car because of the intense heat that still is in the area of the car. the license plates on the ca