and what about the james meredith? so this was another one in which meredith's faced tremendous obstacles. and everyone knew that would be the case in fact, when james meredith wrote a letter to acp legal defense fund saying that he wanted to challenge segregation at. ole miss. thurgood and everyone else said he has to be crazy because white supremacy was such a factor in every sector of in mississippi that it was clear someone might get killed might be murdered in the course of this case. and in fact there were, individuals who lost their lives as result of the desegregation of ole miss. and yes, motley was with him all along she had to incur him to go on when the state mississippi argued that he was unstable mentally unstable because what kind of black person would want to challenge the state that really what the what was embedded behind that claim what they were using his records from the armed forces to to to make that claim they argued that she had he unlawfully voted which was not true but at the full weight of t

and what about the james meredith? so this was another one in which meredith's faced tremendous obstacles. and everyone knew that would be the case in fact, when james meredith wrote a letter to acp legal defense fund saying that he wanted to challenge segregation at. ole miss. thurgood and everyone else said he has to be crazy because white supremacy was such a factor in every sector of in mississippi that it was clear someone might get killed might be murdered in the course of this case. and in fact there were, individuals who lost their lives as result of the desegregation of ole miss. and yes, motley was with him all along she had to incur him to go on when the state mississippi argued that he was unstable mentally unstable because what kind of black person would want to challenge the state that really what the what was embedded behind that claim what they were using his records from the armed forces to to to make that claim they argued that she had he unlawfully voted which was not true but at the full weight of t

. >> the student you were talking about was of course, james meredith.edith was not the first black person to go to ole miss. >> right. >> he was the first out-black person to go to ole miss. there was a black person during world war ii who was in the navy who wasn't passing, by the way, he was just light-skinned and nobody asked him what he was and he was just living life. >> we call that passing in mississippi, okay? i feel you, but we call that passing, but i got you, go ahead. >> well, passing is a very interesting term. it's a very interesting term. >> go ahead. >> but it wasn't like he said he was white, he just didn't say anything and people took him to be white. anyway, james meredith, however, is out, i am a negro, he said that in his application, he wasn't beating around the push. i would say to students, and this-- really, if the student starts with-- was tearing up and was saying, i'm discombobulated by this, i might very well -- i could have easily imagined myself saying, well, i want to talk about everything. >> yeah. >> and i think that ev

james meredith, however, i am a negro, he said that in his application. wasn't beating around the bush. i would say to students, this. if a student was tearing up and saying i am discombobulated by this. i can imagine myself saying i want to talk about everything and i think everything should be taught on the question of how you feel however, i want to talk, i'm not going to defer to your tears and i'm not going to defer to your saying you are traumatized, and where would we be if james meredith and john lewis and all of the greats of that era, where would they be if they acted the way you are acting? i think they did. if you think james meredith and john lewis did not cry over the way they were treated, if you think they did not feel humiliated this is science fiction. i love science fiction but do you think they were humiliated, they felt layers of terror? of course they did. >> i have an older brother. i have an older brother around those folks age. going to overwhelmingly white institutions. my sense is those pioneers faced what they faced with a diff

and nevertheless, molly went down to mississippi, she represented james meredith. it was a terribly difficult case for also it's of reasons. first of all, the fear and anxiety that was provoked by being a black person, coming down from new york, you know, the antithesis in many ways of mississippi. it was considered daring to come to a courtroom, a federal court room, and stand up. motley stood nearly six feet tall. and claimed that a black man should be able to enter the university of mississippi. and she did that and she did it despite hostility from her co- counsel who refused to recognize her. he would call her "that woman," and motley said to the judge, who himself was a segregationist but on the spectrum that even he knew that was wrong. so, he admonished the opposing counsel when motley said, he should call me by my name, mrs. motley. "the woman from new york" is what he ended up calling her. another point i want to make about the ways in which this was a difficult case, meger evers would pick motley up from the airport and he would take her to the courthous

not going to defer to your saying that you were traumatized and you know, where would we be if james meredith and john lewis and all of the greats of era, where would we be if they acted the way that you're acting? i think they did act the way were. i if you think meredith and john lewis did not cry over the way they were treated, if you think they did not feel i mean, sam, this is science fiction and i love science. but do you think they were humiliated? do you think they felt like go ahead. layers of tear? of course they did. right. i have an older brother brother. i have an older brother around those folks age. going to overwhelmingly white institutions. my sense is that those. faced what they faced with a different ethos than some of our students today and some of our students today as far as i'm concerned, it is not been in advance. i mean, the folks who, you know, i want to i want to change the world. i want to change the world. but you know what? i can't think straight if we're in a class talking about james baldwin's work, if a white quotes james i what if a white person quotes james

she did it because marshall signed the case to her and they received a letter from james meredith who said he wanted to challenge segregation in his home state and marshall said this man has got to be crazy. that's your case and it was because of the violence in mississippi, the stranglehold of white supremacy of people of the state and nevertheless she went to mississippi and represented james meredith, a terribly difficult case for all sorts of reasons. the fear and anxiety provoked by being a black person coming from new york, daring to come to the courtroom and the stood nearly 6 feet tall and claimed a black man should be allowed to enter the university of mississippi. she did that and did it despite hostility from her cocounsel who refused to recognize her. he called her that woman and molly challenged it and she said to the judge himself as a segregationist but on the spectrum, even he knew that was wrong so he acknowledged the opposing counsel when molly said he should call me by my name, missus molly, at least call her the woman from new york is what he ended up calling her.

she represented james meredith. it was a terribly difficult case for all sorts of reasons. first of all, the fear and the anxiety that was provoked by being a black person. coming down from new york, the antithesis in many ways of mississippi. it was considered when daring to come into a courtroom, a federa court room and stand up as an motleyto 6 feet tall and claimed that a black man should be allowed to enter old miss the university ofte mississippi. and that she did that. she did that despite hostility from her cocounsel who refused to recognize her. he would call her that woman and motley and challenged. she said to the judge, who himself was a segregation list, but the spectrum of segregation even he know that was wrong. so he admonished the opposing counsel that went motley saide e should call me by my name, mrs. motley, to at least call her -- make the woman from new york is what he ended up calling her. and another point i want to make about the ways in which this was a difficult case, evers who was the main naacp operative in mississippi would pick motley up from

she represented james meredith. it was a terribly difficult case for also to reasons. first of all, the fear and the anxiety was provoked by being a black person. coming down from new york, the antithesis in many ways of mississippi it was n considered and daring to come to the courtroom, a federal court room and stand up and motley stood nearly 6 feet tall and claimed a black man should be allowed to enter ole miss, the university of mississippi. and she did that and she did it despite hostility from her cocounsel who refused to recognize her.he would call her that woman and motley challenged it and sent to the judge who himself was a segregationist but on the spectrum of segregationists even he knew that that was wrong and so he admonished the council when motley said he should call me by my name mrs. motley. to at least call her the woman from new york iswhat you ended up calling her . and another point i want to make about the ways in which thisis a difficult case . medgar evers was the main naacp operated in mississippi would pick motley up from the airport and tr

well james meredith is here with us now. james, wow. what a story you have to tell.or you to be there on that field accepting that jersey. being recognized for all that you have accomplishment, stepping foot on that campus years ago when you were the first black student to enroll at ole miss. what was that like? bring us back then, 60 years ago and then to now being honored. >> it was extremely significant in 1962. but the problems, the black-white race thing today is far more serious and in need of fixing than it was then. >> well tell us more about what made you want to enroll at a time when it was all white. you knew you would be the first black student. why did you decide to be that person? >> because i am a united states citizen and a citizen of mississippi and every citizen should endure every citizenship should rate. i believe that then and i believe it now. >> you were honored on this same football field where students were waving confederate flags at a similar matchoff between kentucky and ole miss. that was two days before you arrived on campus back in 1962

james meredith and evicted from the marlowe plantation in 1962. reverend smith and lindsay ran for the congress in 1962 so if any of you are still teaching or are a retired teacher, share this with them because it's an important milestone in the history of the mississippi movement in history and met her less than a year after she was evicted from the plantation and sunflower county. we were about to take a bus ride from cleveland to florida to attend a citizen education workshop. i rode the bus and we got to the workshop. the workshop director was andrew young. during that week, she described to us the eviction from the plantation and she sang and preached and discussed and i was simply overwhelmed. she absolutely changed my life and my way of thinking. i spent the week that i can remember in vivid terms and at my age now if i go from the bedroom to the kitchen i can't remember why i was in the kitchen. [laughter] but i can go back and recall events from the first time i heard. i called my mother and told my mother i met this remarkable woman, thi

. >> i think they did -- if you think james meredith and john lewis a did not cry over the way they weretreated, if you think they didn't feel humiliated, it's science fiction then. do you think they were humiliated and felt like layers of terror, of course they did. i have an older brother around those folks age going to overwhelmingly white institutions. my sense is they faced with a face with a different evo's then some of ourur students today and some of our students today as far as i'm concerned hasn't been in advance. i want to change the world but i can't think straight if we are in a class talking about james baldwin's work if a white person quotes james baldwin. if a white person quotes james baldwin, t because they want to grant what i don't feel like is being granted to the student with no context for how they come to the word. we are coming out this from different places. i understand the conventional understanding about this generation of students being less resilient and i don't buy it first of all we know being a tough guy if we want to call him a tough guy but let's talk

in 1962 was an important in the history of mississippi james meredith went to ole miss in. 1962. mrs. hamer was evicted from the wd plantation. in 1962. river now wrote smith and reverend. lindsay ran for the us congress in 1962. so any of you are still teaching or if you're a retired teacher, share this year of 62 with them because it's an important milestone in the history of the mississippi movement in mississippi history. the year of 1962. i'm mrs. hamer less than a year after she had been evicted from the wd malo plantation in sunflower county, i met her at the home of. angie moore in cleveland, mississippi. we were about to take a bus from cleveland to dorchester county, georgia, to attend a voter education registration citizenship education workshop that was organized by james bevel and diane nash, wife and. so i rode the bus with. mrs. hamer in the winter of 1963 to georgia. we got to the workshop, the workshop director was andrew young and his late wife, jean young and dorothy cotton and during that week, mrs. hamer described us the eviction from the mallow plantation an

meredith's iron brigade. turns around is hitting the back of the head with a bullet fired by some volley of probably james j. archer's brigade. who knows? and he falls to the ground dead. and we know the rest of the story the rest of the first core comes up eventually are committed to a fight abner doubleday is now the senior in command and i tell you i i have to feel for abner doubleday here. i don't i don't i don't come to his aid when he is sacked by mead because mead gets too reports from two different officers. that really don't aren't very complementary of doubleday. and mead has he can't convene committees to discuss this or try a case or anything else? yes. just make a decision. and he calls in john newton and puts him in the place of after doubleday, but doubleday. had had been told by reynolds. and he wrote a very fine article in battles and leaders after the war. he was told by reynolds that reynolds was going to go up to gettysburg was going to try to get the enemy to collect in front of him and the minute the enemy did he was to fall back to emmitsburg. that's what double day says. now this corr