james] mitchell or [dr. bruce] jessen. they are doing special things to special people in special places, and generally are not available." while the apa has attempted to distance itself from mitchell and jessen, the newly disclosed emails show the men attended a 2003 invite-only conference called, "the science of deception" sponsored by the apa, cia, and rand corporation to discuss so-called enhanced interrogations. we are joined now by two of the co-authors of the new report "all the president's psychologists: the american psychological association's secret complicity with the white house and u.s. intelligence community in support of the cia's 'enhanced' interrogation program." steven reisner, is clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst. he is a founding member of the coalition for an ethical psychology and advisor on psychology and ethics for physicians for human rights. he is currently a member of the apa council of representatives. nathaniel raymond is director of the signal program on human security and technology at t

they were desperate, and they wanted someone who had the answers, and james mitchell and bruce jessen said they had them. >> narrator: abu zubaydah had been in thailand for two weeks when james mitchell arrived. it was time to get tough. >> his life will start becoming bad, you know? nudity, music, loud music, sleep deprivation. (loud rock music playing) >> narrator: in abu zubaydah's cell, fbi agent soufan watched as the cia theory was put into practice. >> soufan saw the temperature manipulations, the slapping, the hitting. and then he sees this confinement box which they're going to throw abu zubaydah into, and he gets furious. he said, "you can't do this kind of thing." >> and i was really frustrated because i think that this is not going to lead us anywhere. i mean, this guy admitted that he never interrogated a person in his life, he doesn't know anything about islamic extremists, and here he is trying to call the shots. >> and at one point, soufan gets so upset, he calls back on a secure phone to fbi headquarters and says, "i'm going to arrest these guys." he means the cia folk

nermeen: that was james mitchell speaking on fox news last december. was the psychologist who was asked by the cia to design its interrogation program. could you talk about that, in particular, in a context you called earlier and atrocity-producing situation? what enabled this to occur? >> professionals are as prone to being socialized to the norm of a group including being socialized to evil, as are any other groups in american society. what that means is, psychologists, in this case and there are others from other professions, internalize what is considered to be acceptable and appropriate for them in carrying out their profession. so torture exist. there is the not from the administration, go ahead with torture, and psychologists then adapt to that. and in this case become not just participants in torture but the creators of the methods of torture. that is a shocking clip because it shows him kind of slightly reluctantly admitting that they do all of those things. of course, it is denied their torture. that is absurd. they are out and out torture. a

. >> before long, his support of local farmers puts him at odds with james mitchell, a prominent lawyerhis bill will not work. it will not be agriculturely productive and that, my esteemed colleagues is why we will not count this motion, no matter how much the assemblyman crockett claims, it will be a boom to local farmers. >> i recon i'd like to rebut you, mitchell. >> i don't have the words and i would still like to say my own peace. my fellow colleagues, we will not, we cannot, we shall not countenance this motion. did i offend your delicate sensibilities, mister? >> david crockett becomes the voice of the struggling classes, labors, tradesmen, pioneers and farmers, those building america into the powerhouse it is becoming. but in the process, he's criticizing the democrats, including andrew jackson's inner circle. >> as it turned out, crockett wasn't trying to criticize jackson but jackson took it so personally, he said, i'm going to crush this little pepsqueak. >> crockett's growing prop layer tea puts him at odds with the party leadership. andrew jackson, now the presidential demo

his support of local farmers puts him at odds with james mitchell a prominent lawyer. >> this bill willwork. it will not be agriculturally productive. that's why, my esteemed colleagues, why we will not assembly this motion. it will be a ruin to local farmers. >> i reckon i would like to rebut you, mitchell. >> i don't have the words, but i would still like to say mine. my fellow colleagues, we will not, we cannot, we shall not gamble with this money. you know i say you are done with sensibilities, mitchell. >> day sri crockett becomes the voice of the struggling class men, laborers and farmers become the powerhouse it is becoming. in the croprocess he is criticig democrats including andrew jackson's inner circle. >> as it turned out, crockett wasn't trying to criticize jackson, but jackson took it so personally. >> he said it. i am going to crush this little pip squeak. >> crockett's growing popularity and independent politics puts the odds on the party. the frontrunner has his old scout in his sights. >> andrew jackson was once involved in a dual, someone had insulted him. he went int

mitchell will harness the boys and rappel down the tower with them. with night falling and temperatures dropping, it's becoming a risky operation. >> james had john's handgle iron girder there. he had a death grip on it. his brother's hand was blue. >> it's been two tense hours since the crisis began when another option makes a dramatic entrance. a special utility truck called a condor equipped with a 150-foot boom. by coincidence, it had been undergoing repairs just a few miles away. >> they only had one in the state i believe at the time and the mechanic in charge of it saw this on the news and he went back to work to reassemble it. when the condor entered the green belt, there was a roar. we were excited. >> the boys are ushered to safety. >> oh, i was so relieved. just wanted to thank heavens that they were safe and i wanted to hold them. >> and james is treated as a hero. >> i still don't see what i did was that unusual. may be a trial sometimes but i have a really wonderful brother and i love him. >> some day i hope you can tell me why you climbed all the way to the top. >> years later, john has now grown to adulthood. a scrapbook of clippings hel

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mitchell to take bibles to the moon on apollo 14. kirk covered the story for u.p.i. and he and stoke became friends. >> this is 1,254 pages of the king jamesersion of the holy bible. >> before he was made a ward of the state, he was active on the internet emailing friends and writing letters. he was also the keeper of the lunar baseballs now worth a fortune, but an apparently disagreement over how he was dealing with some of his assets led to his guardianship. >> one bible sold for $56,000. if there were even 60 in that apartment, which we're fairly sure they were, do the math, that's worth millions. >> the state has seized hills assets and while keeping him in isolation is using his money to pay for lawyers. in 2012 depositions in a lawsuit over ownership of some of the lunar bibles, texas department of aging and disability services personnel conceded stout was not allowed to use the internet, male letters or use the phone and that all incoming communications are screened. he said the state guardian won't allow visits from him or others. >> they say it's for his own protection. what are you protecting him from? >> we asked the state about