we're joined by james moran, a former europe and union in bassett, or to egypt, jordan and human. it's also an associate senior research fellow at the center for european policy studies. in casablanca, morocco is a manual, retrieving president of the institute of european perspective and security, and a former political advisor to the french extra of defense. and in to lose france is lex pack and berg, the senior advisor on the question of palestine program at the arab, rene signs for democracy and development. thank tech. welcome. all of you to inside story, mr. moran. let's start with you. you were, as i said, you in baset are to multiple countries in the middle east. why is europe such a non factor in this conflict? a non fact to europe has a great deal of interest and involvement in the region over the years. but it's right to say that it's certainly not in prime position as like the 1st of all, if any in the us recently because the saw, the guys are now or not at all as well. but there are bottom europe and interest in the state, and that has been a shift in europe and opinio