one is james murdoch and lachlan murdoch differ on climate change.rips murdoch believes it will destroy the world -- james murdoch believes it will destroy the world. you have an obligation to tell the truth about climate change. lachlan murdoch believes the climate is overhyped and it is an effort by liberals and elites to exercise control over the general public. that is a major difference. the other difference is lachlan murdoch was not -- whether or not he believed the lies about the election, he was tolerant of them. he actively helped spread misinformation june the 2020 election by calling into producers and saying, hey, that host is not giving enough credence to these attacks on the election, better get them to change their coverage in real time. he had an active hand in shifting fox's direction around that. james murdoch would argue that is bad, destructive, should not be doing that. they had other difference is around politics. during black lives matter, james murdoch. there did need to be more discussion around racial reckoning where lachla

james murdoch is disgusted by what airs on fox news in the us — he has moved away from the companiesws corporation board in 2020. so lachlan has been in line for a while, but he's always been sharing power with his father. i think one of the questions now is, how involved will rupert actually be? if this retirement or just semi—retirement? does this foreshadow other changes to the company in the months to come? so far the indication is no, and that lachlan murdoch will continue with the same strategies that his father has preceded. for example, trying to push google and facebook to pay up for content, and trying to move more into streaming wars. we're joined by bbc business correspondent erin delmore from new york. what does this mean for the future of fox news and news, 7 what does this mean for the future of fox news and news,?_ of fox news and news,? rupert murdoch is _ of fox news and news,? rupert murdoch is 92, _ of fox news and news,? rupert murdoch is 92, the _ of fox news and news,? rupert murdoch is 92, the succession l of fox news and news,? rupert - murdoch is 92, the suc

james, we reported on murdoch's reach and influence on this and other countries tonight.s someone who's tracked this whole space, i'm curious your thought what it means and what it means for the future of fox and republican politics. >> well, it's a huge moment i think symbolically and in actual reality with what's going to happen here. you've already talked about the enormous influence he's had, and it is enormous compared to other media moguls, no one has spawned another network like this and won with a valid political bent that changed the landscape of american media and it's probably gotten to the point where i don't know how anyone can undo that you know, there's talk that within the family james murdoch, for example, would like to steer fox to a much more moderate position the main thing there is the money. it's like the financial health of the company depends on this ideological bend and the audience locked in to murdoch it was more about the money than the ideology. yes, he's populist, yes, he's conservative we know from the dominion lawsuit we know he doesn't bel

manoeuvred position for power but it has been clearfor about a decade that lachlan was the chosen son. james murdochusted by what airs on fox news and the us, he has moved away from the companies and even quit the news quite bored in 2020. lachlan has been in line for a while but always sharing power with his father. one of the questions now is, how involved will be that actually be? if this retirement or just say my retirement? does this —— semi retirement. does this foreshadow the months to come? indication is no and that lachlan will continue with the same strategies. for example, trying to push google and facebook to pay up for content and trying to move more into streaming was. i for content and trying to move more into streaming was.— into streaming was. i was going to ask if more _ into streaming was. i was going to ask if more on _ into streaming was. i was going to ask if more on that, _ into streaming was. i was going to ask if more on that, where - into streaming was. i was going to ask if more on that, where you - into streaming was. i was going to l ask if more on that, where you think

and i think -- i've been speaking to sources all week, some hope that james murdoch, who's rupert murdoch'shey're hoping that potentially he comes back and rids the network of some of these more extreme voices that have taken it past the point of being a sensible news network and closer it a propaganda outfit. >> we'll watch for that. that will be surprising, indeed. great to talk to you both. appreciate it. >> thanks. >>> we'll be right back. developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned for your dog. anand delivered right to your door. it's smarter, healthier pet food. ♪ we're not writers, but we help you shape your financial story. ♪ we'rnot an airline, but our network connectslobal businesses across nearly 160 market ♪ we're not a startup, but our innovation labs use new technologies to help keep your information secure. ♪ we're not architects, but we help build stronger communities. ♪ we're not just any bank. we are citi. ♪ ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. (sean) i wish for the amazing new iphone 15 p

and so, you know, fox new, he is not like james murdoch who is appalled by what his father's media empire is doing and as you know resigned from the board. lachlan is all in. he has a formula that does enormous damage to the countries in which it operate respect but also one that is enormously profitable. so i'm sure lack lahlan will continue with it. and i have no doubt that rupert murdoch will be very closely involved for a very long time. >>> still ahead, new polling for u.s. presidential candidates, it is a heated race for second place. >>> and plus accusations are flying between india and canada sending diplomatic relations into an absolute tailspin. how do we decide what hotelo book? fear not, i got you. choice hotels has a hotel for every type of stay. like a comfort with the kiddos. spacious! that's what they all say. attention hearing loss sufferers! do you struggle to hear loved ones? do you have trouble keeping up with conversations? do you listen to tv on max volume? hearing loss affects your life. you miss out on important moments... you feel alone. start hearing better today

. >> i think if someone like james murdoch, the son who tends to be more liberal on things, were to comento power, i think that would mean mayor changes are coming to the companies. but with lachlan i think he's in line with his father's vision, said to be conservative on things. i'm not sure how much of a change editorial you'll see. but certainly there's going to be some change. lachlan is not his father. so what that looks like, i don't know, i can't tell you right now p. but i would imagine that someone new coming in, taking the throne, that is going to lead to some change. >> even in this letter he takes a shot at the elites, which is always a fascinating kind of juxtaposition. because he's definition of a media elite, you can say. but he ends this by talking about, in my new role. is there a new role? effectively he is going into retirement or taking on a different project from here on out? >> i don't think anyone is going to say that rupert pmurdoch is going into retirement. those are words he's not capable of uttering. this is probably as close as we get to announcing he is stepp

james who has vowe i will take a network from m brother and i will make it a force for good >> james murdoch hates everything that fox does michael, you have done it agai and i'm sorry to say, i'm gonn hold this thing up right here. sater night live is not on thi week, so you will be spared th stimulated book sales. -- >> the best moment of my life, which is now >> thank you very much we're going to continue to tal about it in the next segment with charles blow. michael wolff's book shows how the election of barack obama sent fox news in a more overtl racist direction in the pursui of bigger profits and a bigger audience that discussion is next with new york times columnist charles blow on your new car? bring it to safelite. my customer was enjoying her new car, when her windshield cracked. [gasp] >> customer: my car! >> tech vo: she didn't take it to the dealer. she scheduled with safelite. we have the latest technology for the newest vehicles. and we do more replacements and recalibrations than anyone else. >> customer: thank you so much. >> tech: don't wait-- schedule now. ♪ pop music ♪ >

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james murdoch stepping down on the board in 2020, citing differences with what their editorial boardhere he stands versus his brother. the two sisters are the wild card. we know that you need a ma majority. it's going to need to be at least three people coming together on the same side here. i think sort of the thing i'm watching is that as lachlan takes over, how is he going to continue rupert's vision for this, but also in the digital era. in the newspaper era are you had powerful op-eds and the cable news where you had a voice, it was easy to carry on that torch. in the digital era, you know it's very different. for streaming, it's hard to command huge attention. it's a frag theed media environment. it's going to be curious to see how he lives on that legacy, but in a very different era. >> it's going to be fascinating to watch. could probably make a television show based off of it. may have. the irony is not lost on attack ing the elites when you're a multimillionaire. go read the piece. we appreciate it. >>> coming up, a cnn exclusive. a form professor accused of sectioning a ca

he is, how he james murdoch, how he is, how he is taking this news. >> yes. there in australia, didn't he? what do australians think of this news today ? today? >> well, i don't know. i mean, as long as the newspapers keep going and the sky news down here, not your sky news . our sky here, not your sky news. our sky news keeps going. everyone will be happy. i don't know . there's be happy. i don't know. there's going to be a remark, you know , going to be a remark, you know, any noticeable transition in that you can you can that consumers will notice . and consumers will notice. and that's what rupert is trying to make clear as well in his in his latest statement. but the thing is, you know, roy , rupert is, you know, roy, rupert murdoch, what an astonishing career you mentioned there, stephen, how he started with a newspaper in adelaide . you've newspaper in adelaide. you've got to make make clear that adelaide is just like, you know , imagine newcastle, it's nowhere near the hub of power. it was the second newspaper. there were just 75,000 readers and from

james murdoch is known to want to take down fox news and turn it into a force for good. zabeth murdoch and prudence who is the oldest daughter and could be a wildcard here, because there is no tie-breaker mechanism. they need three votes. if james is able to convince his sisters to come on his side, they could take other fox news and either shut it down, sell it or change it into something that it is very much not today. but lachlan wants to win them over and keep fox news as it is today, or he might even potentially want to sell it off potentially to another conservative media owner that would run it as it is today. >> you talk about life imitating art or vice versa. finally, i just want to end with something you said at the end of your post, which was that when rupert murdoch leaves the stage for good, that's the last of the bigger-than-life media barons out there. >> rupert murdoch has his hand on everything that his outlets produce. he's in there rewriting "new york post" headlines and he is the hand behind the hand at fox news. he ultimately okayed the call for joe b

in real life, of rupert murdoch's six children, three have vied at different times to play significant roles. liz runs her own media company, jamese board in 2020 over editorial disagreements and lachlan is now at the helm. lachlan murdoch is no rupert murdoch. he hasn't got the force of personality, or the experience of the genius of murdoch, i think, to hold that company together, so it will be interesting to see whether he can prevent it breaking up. the murdoch path to influencing the uk came with the australian's purchase of the news of the world and later the sun. he reinvented the british tabloid, taking on the print unions in a huge disruption to the media industry after he acquired the times newspapers. his empire expanded into the us and into the wider broadcasting sphere. murdoch's influence became legendary, courted by many uk prime ministers. i'm not hiding behind an editor in saying, no, i had nothing to do with the policy of whatever, i do get involved in it, and i don't make a secret of it. despicable, that's how many parents have reacted... in 2011 it emerged his news of the world had illegally listened to the vo

choosing him over james and the 2 sisters, elizabeth and prudence. call it a pre emptive strike. rupert murdoch is doing what he can, while he's still can to control the future of the company. he created the true succession and more fascinating. the story unfortunately begins added death with river murdock passive. that's when really it will start to see massive changes, the family trust splits for ways. so lockley and it was served while he's running the company. now when it comes to the decision making after his father passes, that will be split. and so that's where the torque conversations the tough that goes shading the alley share between the siblings will really start to take hold. rip it is in fine health. he's not lived until a 103. he is 92. so it might not happen for quite some time yet. and i did report in my book that there was an intention among the siblings on group. it's passing to reyes a control of that family businesses in a way that promotes and enhances democracies around the world. rather than undermines the lochlund is to the right of his siblings politically. and the divi

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murdoch dies? one day he will pass the, way there will be a power struggle. jamesll of that is possible down the line, but not that seems in minute. >> more of the succession plot line that we have all been watching. so there is a debate coming up this weekend, just a couple days, brian, what are you watching for with that, given the host of the debate? >> right. fox is leading the debates for the second time. that does speak to the republican party's relationship with fox. more importantly, the questions that will be, asked are we going to hear questions about substance? is fox going to drag the party back towards a policy based, reality based approach? or, are they going to ask about ufos again? the way they did in the first debate? the questions are telling, even more so than the answer sometimes. it shows where fox thinks the party, is and where it wants the party to be. >> brian, thank you so much for your time today. i'm back with some exciting news after this quick break, we'll be right back. be right back. itanium? switch to verizon, you can trade in any ip

we know the liberal son james is disgusted by fox news and would like to see that effected but there's may way to see that when rupert murdoch is still alive. >> when you look at the control of fox and they're going to be the largest shear holders as a voting block, are they still committed to the ideological bent of fox news. there's still other very prominent conservative circles. any chance there could be a slight reorientation of fox? is that ideological or simply bottom line decision? >> i would say both. but certainly murdoch's retirement later contains a pardoned shot at elites, certainly not him. >> you dent get much more relete than that. the parent company loughlin is now taking over, news corp controls "the wall street journal," a number of newspapers around the world. it's a big company and journalists had spent their entire careers prewriting obituaries for rupert murdoch. those things are thousands of words long on the shelf everywhere, and the real reckoning probably doesn't come until the kids fight over his inheritance. >> let me come back to donald trump. after the january 6th report murdoch wanted to make

succession of the company, and when murrupert murdoch passes a, the split among the four children, and not all of them agree on the future of the company. and james in particular has a more progressive view. so what is going to be happening with the future, and the fact that he is stepping out from the emeritus role makes one wonder what will happen when that does happen. >> thank you, sara. >>> and now, the battle on the hill is far from over, because speaker kevin mccarthy has a plan to stop a government shutdown to happen in nine days if they don't get it together. members of his own party are saying no deal. could democrats vote him out. >>> and also, could a deal bring the hollywood writers' strike to an end? talk have been encouraging. the latest on this. l need t th? oh my gosh! i am actually shocked i don't t need a haircut. don't trim daily damage. stop it with dove. - i'm sherry - and i'm john. i'm a pharmacist. as we were starting to age, it's like, well how can we help our cognitive abilities? we saw prevagen. i did read the clinical study and went ahead and gavet a try. i feel that prevagen is helping me with overall clarity d as a p

else's hands we know the more liberal son james, is disgusted by the fox news he'd like to see a chang there. there's no way he can affect that, when rupert murdoch is still alive. today, rupert said, whether we believe him or not, he said, he's in robust health. >> when you look at the vast media empire that is under the control of fox and the murdaug family, and they are still going to be the larges shareholders, if you will, as voting bloc, the family that is over there is still committe to the eye geological bent o fox news do you think ther could be we saw tucker carlson talked to the side very prominent, very powerfu voices in conservative circles any chance with this new change, there could be a sligh reorientation of fox >> no. >> is that ideologically, or simply ideological decision. >> i would say both. certainly, murdaugh's, his retirement letter, contained a parting shot at at least certainly not him. >> you don't get much more elite than yet >> his vineyard, or hi yachts >> i think they're gonna sta where they are the parallel company, whic loughlin is now taking over, news corp, controls the wall street journal a number of newspaper

his brother, james, who's now outside the company, has been seen as someone who may rally his two other siblings, two sisters, to outvoc lachlan, should that day come to pass. rupert murdochhould be said that his mother died shortly before her 104th birthday. >> what else are you going to be watching? what is the biggest impact that this is going to have, do you believe? >> well, i will be watching what it means, for one, in terms of 2024. will lachlan murdoch play the out front role that his father played in american politics and global politics? you mentioned just a minute ago that lachlan had his qualms about former president trump, but former president trump is still very popular with the fox base. if they stay true to form, under lachlan, the network will go where the ratings are. will lachlan do something different? again, not expected, but we don't know what that's going to look like. and, again, to me, that's a huge question that's about more than this company. >> major questions. jim rutenberg, thank you for covering it and joining us tonight. >> thanks so much. >>> president biden, meanwhile, sending hundreds more troops to the border, as migrants there are over

james, who is now outside the company, has been seed as someone who made raleigh. his two other siblings, his sister's two out vote loughlin should that day -- rupert murdoch's 92, itd his mother died shortly before her 104th birthday. >> what else are you going to be watching? what is the biggest impact of this is going to have? >> i'm going to be watching what it means, for one, in terms of 2024. will loughlin murdoch play the out front role that his father played in american politics and global politics? you mentioned, just a minute ago, that loughlin had his problems about president trump, former president trump, but former president trump is still very popular with the base. so, if they say true to form, under lachlan the, network will lower the readings. go well lachlan do something different? will he take the company in a different direction? not expected, but we do not know what that's going to look like, and again, to me, that's a huge question that's about more than this company. >> major questions. jim, thank you for covering it and joining us tonight. >> thank you so much. >> president biden meanwhile sending hundreds of more troops to the border as mig

after rupert murdoch dies that lachlan is able at all to really lead this company cobbled together by his father, and so there's real questions about should we get somebody else to lead it, is jamesht person should we perhaps unwind the enterprise, sell it off at top dollar as best we can, in a way that may enable us to just unlock the value and become even richer >> i see a sequel coming, david. i don't know, maybe you've already started it, but we are far from the end of this story david folkenflik, always good to have you on the show. >>> convicted murderer alec murdaugh pleading guilty for the first time, of course the 55-year-old is currently serving life without patrol for the 2021 murders of his wife and son, and he continues to deny he did it he still also faces about 100 different charges in state court. >>> house speaker kevin mccarthy is flailing as he looks for a way to avert a potential government shutdown, just nine days away now. where those negotiations stand, next you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc tide is busting laundry's biggest myth... that cold water can't clean. cold water, on those stains? ♪♪ cold water can't clean tough stains? i'd say

james stepped away from things. >> okay. and one question i'd like to ask you not just about fox or the murdoch media empire, but the mainstreammainstream establishment media in general . we talked media in general. we talked before about the ability to choose leaders to back presidents, to influence who was elected come the big day. do you think that influence is still a strong now or is it waning in the age of social media, for example , we saw trump do an example, we saw trump do an exclusive on x on twitter. is the mainstream media still able to influence the outcome of elections, or is now social media the new . media media the new. media >> well, i think , martin, social >> well, i think, martin, social media is incredibly critical. we can see how powerful that is and how powerful the tech giants can be when they can silence people such as the former us president. so i think mainstream media always has its role. it's incredibly important . but you're incredibly important. but you're absolutely right in pointing out that social media is very critical and i think can have sway. we know the tech giants and the social media