season, not only do we see hate speech on the internet, anne thompson did great work for us but james nolan -- >> brian, quick question here, how have you found or what are some of the theories behind why ideology or change in ideology has led to more action, not only rhetorical action but also in this case leading to shootings as well as physical violence? >> great question. i think there was several but let's look at one. let's look at this fellow's social media forensic footprint and that will tell us a lot. hate speech on the internet, it's been segregating, self-segregating to these platforms like gab and elsewhere where they have more freedom if you will to express vitriol. so we're seeing not only increase in regard to hate speech on the internet in the united states and europe as well but how it's manifested is now in a fragments social media universe. >> brian levin, stand by, malcolm nance stand by and jim cavanaugh. we're going to take a short break. we're looking at live pictures on the left-hand side in poway, california. this as they redirect traffic from a crime scene they're