as you see this live shot, let's bring in james ratliff, who watched one of the hostages escape earlier pleasure. i was there earlier and there was armed gunman hiding around the corner from the cafe in the building, taking cover on the corner. it was quite a solemn atmosphere. showing more support than anything. it was a very strange experience. >> and you actually saw one of the hostages escape? >> yeah, my friend managed to take a photo of one of the hostages getting released. it was quite a strange experience when that happened. obviously very relieved to see that. >> did that hostage -- must have seemed absolutely terrified to you. >> yeah, you could see her face was terrified but also quite relieved. so hopefully there will be some more resolution in the next few hours really. >> and you couldn't tell from the situation whether she had been freed or whether she actually managed to escape on her own? >> no. from the angle we were watching, it was impossible to see whether it was inside the building, so from what i've heard, it was a case of those that have come out have escaped rat