joining me is colonel james reece, internal affairs analyst. and when we look at, this how big of a target is this? i know they wanted to capture him and not kill him, but the fact that they have taken out abu sayyaf how critical is that that? >> good evening, poppy. yes, it is a big target, but the jsoc the joint special operations command in the special league delta this is what they are design ded to do. they are designed to get the high payoff targets to literally take down the network and to the launch from different areas of the world and to go into syria, and show the combat power we can put anywhere in the world is awe-inspiring operation for isis to see what we can do. >> can you talk about the role in terms of the financing isis? i mean, we know that he was someone with deep knowledge of and say, operations over the way they would take the over the oil fields and sem that oil on the black market, but fou that he is killed what happens to the isis money machine, the way it funds itself? >> well, he was really part of the senior leaders

lieutenant colonel james reece. thank you very much. we'll have more on this story. the status of the helicopter. again, barbara starr reporting. they'll look at first -- when the sun begins to come up. back to the quake itself, just the ripple effect the devastation in nepal. i want to show you something. in is the actual moment caught on some sort of tv system this building. the moment this hit, the 7.3 quake hit. panic, people rushing out of there, fearing that obviously the walls, the roofs could come down on them. [ crashing ] >> this massive earthquake flattening homes and buildings and triggering landslides like this here. and a reminder, when the quake hit, there were people still sifting through the rubble searching for possibly missing or dead after the april 25th quake hit killing more than 8,000 people. incredibly the quake is technically considered an aftershock. 7.3 magnitude. let's go to my colleague, will ripley he's just arrived in the capital of kathmandu. rubble all behind you. i don't know if that was from the first or second massive earthquake. t

let me bring in lieutenant colonel james reece. as we -- you have isis rushing in reinforcements we've talked to people on the ground, the iraqi military they've seen reports of bulldozers rigged with explosives taking out humvees and fire-fights lasting for hours. the question is how is isis managing this it's not like they have helicopters or advanced equipment. how are they holding this territory? >> one of the things you said is the vehicle-born improvised explosive device ied or vbied, is a web of choice for terrorists. it takes one person, as you know with a laden born vehicle and can do damage to a large concentration of defending or forces by a person. it's a force operation that could take out the opposite side quickly in explosion. that's one way they're doing it. and they have the whole reinforcement from syria. a safe haven for them. they've got tracks they can train and move in to anbar quickly to reinforce the fight. >> that's where they're coming for from for reinforcement. i know the iraqi prime minister says the li

delta force commander, our cnn global affairs lieutenant colonel james reece. we learned the real name of this isis commander today. i never heard of him, but i'm not an expert. had you ever heard of this guy before? >> wolf never heard of him. i think he is a middling official dealing in stolen oil is pretty widespread that part of the world. he may have a lot of information on his computers would could be very interesting. but the real people they would like to go after are the ones that know the plans and intentions of isis. the officers who led that attack on ramadi a lot of them are former iraqi officers. those are the kinds of people you want but they're out of range. and you sort of take what you can get at the beginning of a war. >> colonel reece for the president of the united states to authorize an operation like this and you're a former delta force commander, it's a high risk operation you. don't want these delta force commandos, their helicopters, the ospreys to be blown up if you will. you got to think there is really some high value there, right?