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here's james reyerson being cross examined. various parties were saying at various times? yes. did ou ever saying at various times? yes. did you ever hear _ saying at various times? yes. did you ever hear mr— saying at various times? yes. did you ever hear mr floyd say "i ate too many drugs. " no. did you hear that? yes. did it appeared _ did you hear that? yes. did it appeared that _ did you hear that? yes. did it appeared that he _ did you hear that? yes. did it appeared that he said - did you hearthat? yes. did it appeared that he said i ate too many drugs? appeared that he said i ate too many dru:s? . 0ur correspondent larry madowo is in minneapolis covering the trial. talk us through what's going on. what is going on is the sergeant was the lead agent investigating this case. 50 agents of the criminal apprehension, they are arguing over this small clip in the arrest video of george floyd. the defence is trying to say that george floyd tells the officers arresting him that he ate too many drugs. the prosecution came back to

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. >> the state calls special agent james reyerson to the stand. >> raise your right hand, please. if you feel comfortable doing so, take off your mask. let's start with you giving your full name and spelling each of your names. james reyerson. >> thank you, your honor. >> can you tell us what your current occupation is? >> i'm a agent with the criminal apprehension. >> what does a senior special agent do? what does your job entail. >> i'm signed to the use of force investigation group. we conduct criminal investigations into uses of force incidents. >> are you a licensed peace officer? >> yes, sir. >> obviously you're not wearing a police uniform. well, when you work, do you have a uniform? >> generally no. we're generally plain clothes. >> and you mentioned -- well, when did you first become licensed as a peace officer? >> i started law enforcement career in 2007. >> and so let's run through your educational work experience first of all, did you receive degree? >> i did. >> i have a bachelors of criminology from the university of tampa in 2006. >> after that, did you go into the

here's james reyerson being cross examined.ties were saying at various times? yes. , , ., ., ~ were saying at various times? yes. , ., ~ yes. did you ever hear mr floyd sa "1 yes. did you ever hear mr floyd say "i ate _ yes. did you ever hear mr floyd say "i ate too — yes. did you ever hear mr floyd say "i ate too many _ yes. did you ever hear mr floyd say "i ate too many drugs". - yes. did you ever hear mr floyd say "i ate too many drugs". no. j did you hear that? yes, i did. did you hear that? yes, i did. did it appear— did you hear that? yes, i did. did it appear that _ did you hear that? yes, i did. did it appear that mr - did you hear that? yes, i did. did it appear that mr floyd i did it appear that mr floyd said "i ate too many drugs"? yes, it did. to further explain the significance of the testimony, here's our correspondent larry madowo, who is in minneapolis covering the trial. he was the lead investigator in this case. there were 15 agents of the bureau of apprehension, the investigative body here in the state of min

before that we heard from james reyerson, with a key exchange. the defense played a portion of a body camera video, and they asked that special agent whether it appeared george floyd said, i took too many drugs, to which he initially said yes, that's what i heard. there was a brief break, they came back, prosecutors then played more context from that video, basically started 2 a bit earlier, and now the special agent says, he says he heard i ain't do no drugs. the reason that exchange is sew crucial, especially to the defense, is because that goes back to their central argue. they are article majority floint ace primary cause of death was not from the need to the deck, but an overdose tied to it from methamphetamine and fentanyl combined with his medical history. when that sergeant was on the stand, the defense played that exact same exchange and the sergeant wouldn't even confirm what was said, saying i can't make out what's being said. as having seen it myself, i will say it's difficult to hear what's being said in that moment, james. >> omar j

the defense, this is raised by the questioning of both expert jody stiger and lead investigator james reyerson in which the defense introduced. it was exhibit 1007 i believe, and ask witnesses to opined based on what he first suggested that mr. floyd said. and professor stoughton because he reviews so many body-worn camera cases and has expertise in that and has lectured on this topic before of the phenomenon of suggestibility or auditory. only if he would be able to provide not only testimony about the suggestibility and why i went to space answer the question in a particular way, you would be able to divide an example of this. we have demonstrative of that particular segment slowed down supplemented with the transcript and do suggested he said something completely different. ultimately the professor would indicate when he listened to the portion several times without suggestion he was unable to discern what precisely was said. >> mr. nelson, do you want to respond to that part since i don't think we talked about that. >> your honor, again i believe that this is within the province of the jur

the defense playing the body camera video to chief investigator james reyerson. >> did it appear that mr. floyd said i ate too many drugs. >> yes, it did. >> reporter: but then the prosecution show what had happened earlier in that same footage. >> is there a discussion about drug use by the officers in attempting to speak to mr. floyd? >> yes. >> having heard it in context were you able to tell what mr. floyd was saying there? >> yes, i believe mr. floyd was saying, i ain't do no drugs. >> a little different about what you were asked about when you only saw a portion of the video. >> reporter: a forensic investigator saying when she searched the police cruiser where officers struggled with floyd, she missed a few pills containing methamphetamine later determined to have floyd's dna on them. >> didn't have any information that i was looking for anything like a pill or resembling a pill so at the time i didn't give it any forensic significance. >> reporter: the defense is arguing that floyd spit the drugs out during the arrest claiming his drug use led to his death. >> you've seen sort

more questions about floyd's drug use, playing a short clip from a body camera to special agent james reyerson with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension, who investigated the police floyd's pained voice is heard while he's being restrained >> does it appear that mr. floyd said, "i ate too many drugs"? >> yes, it does. >> reporter: the prosecution had a dramatically different interpretation when it played a longer clip >> having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there? >> yes i believe mr. floyd was saying "i ain't do no drugs." >> reporter: at the courthouse this week -- >> this is nail-biting i can say. >> reporter: george floyd's youngest brother rodney, who watched multiple officers take the stand. >> i've never seen chief officers willing to testify against their own. we need more of that across this country. accountability that's it. >> reporter: late today the prosecution called several witnesses who examined pills found in the back of the police squad car. investigators testified the pills contained meth lester >> gabe gutierrez, thank you. >>>

the defense played video of floyd resisting police for james reyerson, the lead investigator in the case. >> did you hear that? >> yes, i did. >> did it appear that mr. floyd said, "i ate too many drug?" >> yes, it did. >> reporter: but prosecutors replayed the video from an earlier point, saying it's open to interpretation. >> having heard it in context, were you able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there? >> yes, i believe mr. floyd was saying, "i ain't do no drugs." >> reporter: the drugs in floyd's system and what he possessed go to the heart of the defense's argument that opioid drugs and underlying health conditions led to his death, not derek chauvin's knee. floyd's autopsy revealed multiple drugs in his system, including fentanyl. cbs news legal expert and analyst rikki klieman. is it smart for the prosecution to get ahead of this and try to deflate the defense's argument? >> if the prosecution looks like it's hiding something, the jury will hold that against the prosecutor. >> reporter: another struggle for prosecutors today, trying to explain why a pill with floyd's d.n.a. sat

. >> james, reyerson. >> thank you, your honor. >> can you tell us what your current occupation is? >> currently

. >> reporter: the next police witness, james reyerson disputed the interpretation. >> i think he's saying "i ain't done no drugs." >> reporter: we've been listening to mckenzie anderson, a forensic sciencist looking at the forensics. she's being asked about some of the items the defense was talking about, for example, a pill in the car where she tested that pill. we're wait to go hear more of her testimony as the trial will resume in a few seconds here. >> stand by, sara. i want to bring in elliott williams and ron johnson. elliott, this expert with the los angeles police department, testified that chauvin used deadly force, and in his own words, no force should have been used once floyd was handcuffed and on the ground. how important was it to hear that from an outside expert? >> right, look, you know, the prosecution put on a lot of different witnesses, police witnesses. i've heard a 234u78 better of individuals who say, they might be overdoing it, hering going too far calling too many witnesses. the simple fact is the reasonable dowd standard in criminal trials, you hear these terms al

. >> james, reyerson. >> thank you, your honor. >> can you tell us what your current occupation is? >> currently a senior special agent with the criminal apprehension. >> what does your job entail? >> i am currently assigned to the newly formed use of force investigation group. we cover criminal investigations and use of force incidents. >> are you a licensed peace officer? >> yes, sir. >> you are not wearing what we typically think of as a police uniform. when you go to work do you have a uniform? >> generally no, we're generally plain clothes. >> you mentioned -- well, when did you first become licensed as a peace officer? >> i started my law enforcement career in 2007. >> so let's run through your educational work experience for your job as a peace officer. first of all, did you obtain like a four-year undergraduate degree? >> i did. >> can you describe or tell the jury what that is? >> i have a bachelor of science in criminology from the university of tampa. >> what year did you achieve that? >> 2006. >> after that did you go to work in the field of law enforcement? >> i did. >>

investigated chauvin's actions and as the person who handled much of the evidence in the case, james reyersonrmed exactly how long officers stayed on george floyd and how long chauvin's knee was on george floyd's desk. and weland to an expert witness hiredly the prosecution. he testified that the amount of force devin chauvin used against floyd was, in his pi

unfortunately james reyerson fell into a tried and true technique of agreeing with everything that nelsong, but with the totality of circumstances i think it was a sly move for the defense to play only that small portion. the defense's interpretation doesn't really make a lot of se sense. but he was caught flatfooted. it will be interesting to see what the jury takes away. again, i don't think the defense attorney's interpretation makes sense under the circumstances. >> this all plays into, right, what we all know is a portion of the defense's strategy, that it was the drugs that killed george floyd as a significant factor, not use of force. but the bottom line we know in minnesota, we have to talk about a substantial cause. don't have to have a sole cause. when we look at the case being laid out here, what are you taking away from this real focus on that moment and whatever mr. floyd may have said in terms of how it impacted the actions that were taken and the force that was used? >> well, first of all, i still don't understand exactly what it is he said personally, and i've listened to

. >> reporter: also taking the stand singer specialist james reyerson who investigated floyd's death. to listen to mr. floyd's voice. did you hear that. >> yes, i did. >> did it appear that mr. floyd say i ate too many drugs? >> yes, i did. >> reporter: but when the prosecution introduced a longer version of the audio individual yoerks he heard mr. floyd say something different. >> in the context, did you hear what mr. floyd said? >> yes. i ain't do no drugs. >> reporter: he said the crowd at the scene was a per received threat and distracted chauvin during floyd's arrest. >> when someone starts threatening you, it's a possible possibility that an officer can view that as a potential deadly assault is about to happen. that's what they're trained. >> yes, that's what they're trained. >> reporter: when questions about the crowds on chauvin's actions, he told prosecutors this. >> i did not perceive them as a threat. >> why is that? >> they were merely filming and most was their concern for floyd. >> reporter: the defense also argued chauvin's knee was sometimes on floyd's shoulder and no

sergeant jody stiger then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james reyerson took the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yes, few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked you to do for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister for the same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do drugs. >> a different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> that was 40 reporting hearing. the often emotional testimony in trial can be difficult. we've posted links to helpful resources on our website. kron 4 dot com. >> 5.51. and now to the latest on the effort to recall governor newsome within the next few weeks. the secretary of state is expected to announce whether the supporters have gathered enough signatures to put this to a vote. both sides are discussing the issue. and new

against derek chauvin, but one of the more significant exchanges came from one special agent james reyersonith the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension took the stand. he was asked about a portion of body camera video taken from may 25th, 2020 and he was asked to identify what george floyd said in the moment and at first he was asked whether he heard george floyd say "i ate too many drugs" to which he initially responded yes, but minutes later prosecutors played a longer portion from that same video and here is how that exchange went. >> we played through 202110 with the quote that you were asked about appearing at 202101, correct? >> yes. >> having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there. >> yes, i believe there floyd was saying "i ain't do no drugs." >> so that's a little different than what you were asked about when you only saw a portion of the video. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: it's a key moment because one of the defense's main arguments in this is that it was a combination of drugs in floyd's system along with his medical history that killed him no

sergeant jody stiger then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james reyersonook the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yes, the few that mr floyd said i too, many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure what you're saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. >> i want to tell. what mister for the same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do drugs. little different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> that was, you know, forte reporting hearing the often emotional testimony can be a little difficult and so we've posted some links that might be helpful to you on our website. some resources that you can avail yourself to the kron 4 dot com. >> some 49 is a time in the next few weeks of secretary of state is expected to announce to the recall against a governor newsome of the has enough signatures and it will go to a vote. both si

james reyerson with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension. for a moment, a star defense witness or at least one that seemed to earn them points saying george floyd said i ate too many drugs. then he played the tape again and he says, actually, he said the opposite. i ain't doing no drugs. i wonder what the impact of that is. it strikes me the lawyer didn't do his homework. you should have played the whole thing and got a definitive answer as to what you got there. >> and the jury will have an opportunity to play that tape over and over again. i've listened to it several times and i still don't know exactly what he said. but the medical examiner, i have attended numerous autopsies, and one of the things they do is examine the contents of the stomach so we should be able to get some answer to that. but let's play this out for a minute, if, in fact, floyd said what the defense says that he said, i ate too many drugs. as a police officer if you observe someone ingest what you believe to be drugs, swallowing it to keep from being arrested, let's s

down and playing this clip from body cam video for the state's lead investigator, special agent james reyerson. >> did you hear that? >> yes, i did. >> did it appear that mr. floyd said, i ate too many drugs? >> yes, it did. >> reporter: but the prosecutor not buying the argument, playing an earlier more extended portion of that same tape for the investigator who then had a different answer. >> having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. floyd was saying there? >> yes, i believe mr. floyd was saying i ain't do no drugs. >> reporter: 11 current and former members of law enforcement have now testified against chauvin, including use of force expert lapd sergeant jody stiger who reviewed all of the videos and determined floyd posed no threat once he was handcuffed and on the ground, telling jurors chauvin should have reduced force. >> you could see that mr. floyd's -- his health was deteriorating. therefore, you have responsibility to take some type of action. >> reporter: and we could learn today if the man who was in the car with george floyd when the incident began will testify. h

has dramatically reversed part of his evidence. 0n the eighth day of testimony, special agent james reyersond's exact words are crucial to the defence case. this report from our correspondent larry madowo contains some distressing images. the pressure that was being caused ijy the pressure that was being caused by the body weight, to cause positional asphyxia, which can cause death. the court heard about an extensive investigation after floyd �*s death that included 50 detectives, 25 fbi agents and more than 200 witnesses question. but the most extraordinary moment in the trial came as the chief investigator was pressed by the defence on words mr floyd was heard uttering during his arrest. did you hear that? did you hearthat? did it did you hear that? did it appear did you hearthat? did it appear mr floyd _ did you hearthat? did it appear mr floyd said — did you hearthat? did it appear mr floyd said i— did you hearthat? did it appear mr floyd said i ate too many drugs. yes, _ floyd said i ate too many drugs. yes. it— floyd said i ate too many drugs. yes. it did _ floyd said i ate too many dr