and art of the problem on the supreme court was justice james mcif reynolds. he was one of the four horsemen. he was a wilson appointee. he was in the wilson administration with fdr. and as attorney general, mcreynolds had drafted, in effect, a court-packing plan. when cummings found that and told it to roosevelt, they both thought it was just such an incredibly wonderful, karmic thing to take on mcreynolds with the mcreynolds proposal, if you will, that i think they got too attached to the idea, and that kind of held their enthusiasm in february and march and into the springtime before, finally, recalibration starts. >> so we've got another question here. from hi wife, she wants to know what determines how many justices can be on court? if does congress have the power to change that number, and can they change it down? as you said earlier, it's been five, it's been seven, you know? basically -- >> that is entirely a statutory matter. it's an ex-judiciary act, if you will. it could create a supreme court seat, or the one became vacant, it could abolish one. i