. >> we had a "new york times" reporter james ricen on thursday, he talked about his case. he could face gaol time for refusing to reveal a source and in this to say about the obama justice department. >> the justice department is used by the obama administration, like president nixon used an enemies list. it's a more officially sanctioned version of an enemies list. >> your reaction to that? >> the president, my president, i voted for him twice, he's the leader of my party. at this point the obama administration prosecuted eight individuals in eight different cases. when the first 43 combined, prosecutors three. that's telling. >>> james ricen had this to say about the impact the government's prosecution of journalists are having overseas. >> they are sending this message to the rest of the world which is dangerous, which is the home of the first amendment is cracking down on journalism. everywhere else you can do the same thing. >> that, to some extent is a message you are trying to send too. . >> listen, journalists are the bearers of bad news, but it is news that you ne

we are joined by james ricen, author of "state of war, the secret history of c.i.a. and the bush administration", the government allegation jeffrey stirling indicted under the espionage act served as a source for the book. ricen refused to testify in his trial. the u.s. rejected an appeal confirming a lower court decision that riesen could not ignore a spoken to test vi. he could face gaol time. james riesen joins us from washington. good to have you with us. you spoke at the sources and secrets commence in march, and you had this to say about the president obama association. >> they are perceived widely been the journalistic industry as the greatest enemy of press freedom that we encountered as an industry in a generation. others echoed your comments. president obama promised transperpsy. you said that the disagrees doubled down on bush administration tactics, doing things the bush administration barely considered. >> i think there's not much doubt about it any more. the track record is clear. they have had more leak investigations and more leak prosecutions and hav