this is about 50 minutes. >> you admire james rogan. you have to read the book rough edges which many of you probably have. we premiered it here when it first came out. it is about his life from welfare to washington. it is fascinating because he has in toward -- in toward a tough life which all of a sudden said this isn't for me and picked himself up and dusted himself off and went on to be very successful in public service. he is a good friend of ours. he first met richard nixon because he has an obsession with presidential and political memorabilia. it is an obsession. i won't let his wife get up and talk about how much of that sending carotid in boxes or how much of it is in his office or how much of it is all over his home but he has been kind enough to share a lot of it with us. we have much of it on display here. that is when he first met richard nixon as a young man and he will probably tell you more about that. he is a neighbor. he was a member of our board for quite some time before he went on the bench two or three years ago.