we have an assessment from james shinn, richard haass, david ignatius and joe klein. >> i'm not re that peace accord has such dismal prospects. i think it's certainly going to be very different but it's preferrable to a retreat soviet style. so the impression is what can you get from such negotiation and how after you brought the military force to bear on it, can you hammer out a deal. >> if i were advising the president, i would go down to 30,000 troops or 25,000 troops over this time period. go down to a minimal force to advise, and train counterterrorism. didn't do the pakistan raid with 70 or 90,000 troops. we did the pakistan raid with a couple dozen troops. >> it's true now as a year ago, why on earth should they take part on any process at all. you will have a vacuum and you will probably have a civil war. so trying, giving your best shawt at making this work by having some leverage seems to me there's a pretty good argument. >> i think that this was a victory for the vice president, for joe biden. and a defeat for those who wanted to do, continue to do extensive counterinsurgenc