in the same way of james snowden. that contractor found him. much is the case of project veritas. this year and fbi agent found me after the fbi raided my home. that agent came to us with internal restricted documents from within the fbi computer systems where they were calling us news media which is very big deal because the case hinges on whether we are news media. they tend to find journalists they can trust. these days, most people don't trust media. we don't pick our subjects, our subject find us. >> how many times have you been sued? or jailed or indicted? >> we're sitting here in an exhibit hall and my attorneys are five steps away from a laughing. a couple dozen pieces of litigation over the last 10 years. we've never lost a case. we don't lose because we are in the right and we don't give up. if you are in the right and you don't ever settle, you eventually win in a court of law. in some cases, we have to appeal. we end up going on offense. in the beginning of my career, people would sue me and there was the opportunity to settle cases and i said i'm not settling any of t