and then you have this illuminating meat passage about james swift town. reporting back on that women's suffrage rights convention. you quoted her as writing the convention was not called to discuss the rights of color. she basically said that black women should not be seeking to aspire more than two race. to the memory memo of their own class. e ray about how white women at the time. likely referred to themselves as slaves. while literally black women were enduring actual slavery. they push back against that. and they said i am woman's rights. we clearly see today that black women are still fighting off both racism and sexism and still fighting ourselves. and pinned into the same corner. you talked about the suffrage is movement. they were just quite literally written out of that. can you talk about those lessons from history that had that intersectional fight that they have to engage in. and how that has been there. and how black women had had to deal with political power today. one of the things that the quote reminds us of is the way in which the prese

i'll give you the list and then we'll talk about every care, lebron james 36% said he's motivated them to go out and vote, taylor swift to be influenced by an entertainer, celebrity or an athlete compared to republicans by a wide margin 17 - 9 we saw with hillary clinton, she had all the celebrity endorsements the big push by celebs in the end and it did not work. stuart: a big party the day before the election and some real celebrities turned out to unmask and absolutely did not work, did not change anything. lauren: know, and we did have celebrities, trump's supporting donald trump this time around especially african-american celebrities and i'm curious to see if that works in 2020. stuart: which way will the work, good question, thank you very much indeed, back to the markets we have red ink, a little worse, down 320 points on the nasdaq, that's the best part of 3%, that's a big drop in the level is back to 10800, the dow is down to 262420 points, anything to add to this. susan: we have a fourth-quarter forecast for the new york fed calling for three-point to below wall street averages but it looks like a slowdown

james. good to see you. clearly, hopefully and everyone's base case expectation that president will make a full and swift recoveryin that scenario, is there any impact on the election of having gone through this >> that's been the question of the day. some want to make the case that, you know, if the president recovers as would be the hopeful outcome and there's not a big impact, maybe this is yet the next thing that we have in 2020 where it seems like a big event but it does not really change the political calculus the flip side is that it is going to remind voters of his performance related to covid-19 and will there be a view that as commander in chief, your first job is to keep folks safe. if he hasn't kept himself safe, is the job he did in response to covid-19 bringing that back up a month before the election? >> does the change the likelihood of a stimulus deal? >> it went from being dead-dead to just slightly dead. so the calculus is in politics whenever you want to change your mind, you need an excuse and so you don't want to view yourself as having caved and so is this the catalyst that provides that ex