at this last meeting, we had james wheeler, a park manager come and talk about camp mather, and it was very informative about the -- i guess the virus out break there and how they dealt with the fire. i think we all got a better understanding of the issues of camp mather. and the other item on our agenda, stephen franz, who's our chair, did an excellent presentation about how to setup a friends group and went into great detail, so if any of the public or commissioners know of a group that's interested in setting up a friends group or neating more information, i'll volunteer him. i'm sure he had -- needing more information, i'll volunteer him. i'm sure he'd be happy to come and talk about how to setup a friends group and how they can support the parks in their areas and rec and park. and the other thing i wanted to comment on was i live right here the outside lands, and i must say after eight years, i figured out how to deal with the parking issue, and it was pretty well run, and i didn't hear many complaints. the main was with muni. i understand the vendor is going to have an outside t

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