historians have largely relied on james wilkinson as a source. and if you i think about james wilkinson, he's a notorious liar in a lot of a lot of historians have taken what he said at face value. and there's some reason suggesting that arnold and gates had a falling out as is documented but they kind of patch things up towards the end of the battle by the second battle so depends also how much you want to believe james wilkinson versus versus other sources. but yeah, they do both have i think pretty powerful egos and i'm sure that plays a role why they don't don't have a perfect relationship saratoga for sure. so you mentioned earlier that you gates moved to virginia and he became a slaveholder and also he was a true believer the cause and given that maybe how do we know how he felt about slavery later in life and independence? yeah, i'm working an article now, the gates and slavery. so it's. so i have a good question. ask so gates initially as far as i can tell has qualms about slavery and when he's in he's in the seven years war like and even

historians have largely relied on james wilkinson as a source. and if you i think about james wilkinson, he's a notorious liar in a lot of a lot of historians have taken what he said at face value. and there's some reason suggesting that arnold and gates had a falling out as is documented but they kind of patch things up towards the end of the battle by the second battle so depends also how much you want to believe james wilkinson versus versus other sources. but yeah, they do both have i think pretty powerful egos and i'm sure that plays a role why they don't don't have a perfect relationship saratoga for sure. so you mentioned earlier that you gates moved to virginia and he became a slaveholder and also he was a true believer the cause and given that maybe how do we know how he felt about slavery later in life and independence? yeah, i'm working an article now, the gates and slavery. so it's. so i have a good question. ask so gates initially as far as i can tell has qualms about slavery and when he's in he's in the seven years war like and even

historians have largely relied on james wilkinson as a source.and if you i think about james wilkinson, he's a notorious liar in a lot of a lot of historians have taken what he said at face value. and there's some reason suggesting that arnold and gates had a falling out as is documented but they kind of patch things up towards the end of the battle by the second battle so depends also how much you want to believe james wilkinson versus versus other sources. but yeah, they do both have i think pretty powerful egos and i'm sure that plays a role why they don't don't have a perfect relationship saratoga for sure. so you mentioned earlier that you gates moved to virginia and he became a slaveholder and also he was a true believer the cause and given that maybe how do we know how he felt about slavery later in life and independence? yeah, i'm working an article now, the gates and slavery. so it's. so i have a good question. ask so gates initially as far as i can tell has qualms about slavery and when he's in he's in the seven years war like and even