he joins us now with his attorney, james winston. gentlemen thank you for being here. notice what i just did there. i said, gentlemen, and sometimes i actually say, ladies and so, mr perrone, is it really true that you lost this job offer because you addressed the board chair and her executive assistant as ladies in an email. we have that email. let me just pull it up. you said ladies. good morning, and then you went out to spell some of your requests in this job negotiation . so was it really the ladies part or was it what you were demanding in the job negotiation that that lost you? the job offer. yeah the reason that was given to me was because i used ladies as a greeting. it was considered offensive to the chair and she called it a microaggression. we never had an opportunity to really negotiate at all. they voted in an executive session to rescind the offer, and that was really where things ended. and what did you think when she said that she was offended by ladies and it was a microaggression. well, initially , uh, i was apologetic said i'm sorry. i didn't mean t

james dimon says, you know what comeau have got hit -- you know what, you we have got hit by the strategy. winstonon fifth avenue. this is a serious thing that every company must do. how does a visible jp morgan set up a --. >> who takes over if jamie dimon is not there at jp morgan. he says every board meeting with or without the seal is also about the chairman. he has one very clear number two, but he also has two women who has been rising into different roles, not leaving community thinking more than 66 million people, households serving around the world over at jp morgan that these two women are responsible for. tom: they leave jp morgan because he is going to be there forever with his annual letter, what is the measurement of forever from mr. nyman? -- mr. diamond. sonali: how many times do people say, is a jp morgan to big without jamie dimon. is this another citigroup situation, which of course jamie dimon was his protege as well. are these two women ready to take over, how soon would they take over, what else do they need to take over. we had jennifer here who have had different parts of t