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>> jamestown. >> jamestown, right. we're not going to talk about the south, right.re is not a turning point in history. so even though it is the first permanent english settlement in america, for her it's not a turning point. it's not a thing that every pupil has to remember, the beginning of jamestown. instead, what every pupil has to remember is the beginning of plymouth, pilgrim landing, the mayflower. what you get between 1578 and 1620 in her textbook is a whole bunch of accounts of basic explorations and discoveries, including the spanish and the portuguese and the english and others, dutch and so forth. basically jamestown is -- gets wrapped up with the kind of finding of america. you found america, you began america with the pilgrims. and that's how you can build into history all these turning points that allow you to move chronologically but assert origins at different moments. now, i told you before i was going give away my example. i gave my example aaa couple of weeks ago. 1643, does everyone remember now what the confederacy was so important in the 19th
>> jamestown. >> jamestown, right. we're not going to talk about the south, right.re is not a turning point in history. so even though it is the first permanent english settlement in america, for her it's not a turning point. it's not a thing that every pupil has to remember, the beginning of jamestown. instead, what every pupil has to remember is the beginning of plymouth, pilgrim landing, the mayflower. what you get between 1578 and 1620 in her textbook is a whole bunch of...
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not far from jamestown. but that was+++d from where it was at that time. if you follow the river north and west, it divides into two rivers. the river on the left is the pamunkey people and on the right is the mattaponi people. the pamunkey people still reside on a reservation which was established in the early 1600s, possibly the oldest reservation in the country. the mattaponi reservation was affirmed by the assembly in 1658. one of the oldest reservations in the country. and in 1670, the largest concentration of indians in the entire commonwealth of virginia was at a little town, which is where my people live today. we still live in the same vicinity that's designated on the map in 1670. we got there in some ways because of removal. because in 1640s, after the second indian uprising in virginia against the british, all of the local tidewater indians were moved west and north to a place called king william county. and king william county was where the two reservations are today. at one time there was another reservation there, around 1670s to 1690s, and
not far from jamestown. but that was+++d from where it was at that time. if you follow the river north and west, it divides into two rivers. the river on the left is the pamunkey people and on the right is the mattaponi people. the pamunkey people still reside on a reservation which was established in the early 1600s, possibly the oldest reservation in the country. the mattaponi reservation was affirmed by the assembly in 1658. one of the oldest reservations in the country. and in 1670, the...
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not far from jamestown, but that was the place where pocahontas. and john smith the governor of the colony. chief powhatan came together and you know the fable the fable being that pocahontas pocahontas saved john smith's life. and therefore the colony was saved. is that true? not very many people believe it. she was only about 10 11 12 years old at that time. so it's very doubtful that she had the authority. as a young indian woman to save the life of the governor of the colony. but that story has been perpetuated through film and other stories from time immemorial. for my tribe we're we're up the river from where we're coming. was at that time we're oklahoma's on new york river if you follow the new york river north and west it divides into two rivers. the river on the left is the pomonkey people. river on the rights the matter for night people but monkey. madison i the same rivers bear the same rain same names today. the monkey people still reside on a reservation which was established in early 1600s possibly the oldest reservation in the countr
not far from jamestown, but that was the place where pocahontas. and john smith the governor of the colony. chief powhatan came together and you know the fable the fable being that pocahontas pocahontas saved john smith's life. and therefore the colony was saved. is that true? not very many people believe it. she was only about 10 11 12 years old at that time. so it's very doubtful that she had the authority. as a young indian woman to save the life of the governor of the colony. but that story...
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not far from jamestown. but that was the place where pocahontas and john smith, the governor of the colony, and chief powatan came together and you know the fable, the fable being that pocahontas saved john smith's life, and therefore, the colony was saved. is that true? not very many people believe it. she was only about 10, 11, 12 years old at that time. so it's very doubtful that she had the authority as a young indian woman to save the life of the governor of the colony. but that story has been perpetuated through film and other stories from time immemorial. from my tribe, we're up the liver from where that town was at the time on the york river. if you follow the york river north and west, it divides into two rivers. the river on the left and the river on the right. the same river, bears the same names today. the bemunky people still reside on a reservation, established in the 1600s. the other reservation was affirmed by the have general assembly in 1658, one of the oldest in the country. and in 1670, t
not far from jamestown. but that was the place where pocahontas and john smith, the governor of the colony, and chief powatan came together and you know the fable, the fable being that pocahontas saved john smith's life, and therefore, the colony was saved. is that true? not very many people believe it. she was only about 10, 11, 12 years old at that time. so it's very doubtful that she had the authority as a young indian woman to save the life of the governor of the colony. but that story has...
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my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginiahat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestownrginiahat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginiahat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginiaat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginia 1619 and they were lucky. millions didn't make it through the middle bpassage. let be honest, the history of this country is from the blood of native americans and slavery, that's how this country was built on the genocide of native people. stealing the land and slavery. that is the foundation of this country. >> spike lee, appreciate your time. thank you. >> any time for you, my man. any time. >>> just ahead, investigation we mentioned earlier into the police shooting of a black 16-year-old girl in ohio. this happened right before the cha chauvin jury announced the decision yesterday but with key differences in the two cases. we'll show you the video and examine whether use of force was justified when we continue. tomir car insurance so you only pay for what you need? really?
my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginiahat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestownrginiahat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginiahat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginiaat with you today because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginia 1619 and they were lucky. millions didn't make it through the middle bpassage. let be honest, the history of this country is from the blood of native americans and slavery, that's how...
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they were taking the wife of a king, as they referred, back to jamestown with him. they took her ashore. and according to the article, ran her through with a sword because they had had enough fighting for one day. they didn't want to take her back because they alluded to the fact that she would be burned at the stake. so instead of doing that, they ran her through with the sword. but they basically anile lated the tribe. in 1610. that process of annihilation, and that process of stealing from the indians, that started there, and at jamestown in 1610, 1607 through 1610, that process continued from virginia all the way to the west coast. in other words, in 100 years after landing, 90% of the population of indigenous people in virginia was gone. 90%. 300 years after landing, 90% of the entire indigenous population of this country was gone. 90%. imagine that. imagine what would happen today if 90% of a population of a nation was destroyed. -- and therefore, the colony was saved. is that true? not very many people believe it. she was only about 10, 11, 12 years old at th
they were taking the wife of a king, as they referred, back to jamestown with him. they took her ashore. and according to the article, ran her through with a sword because they had had enough fighting for one day. they didn't want to take her back because they alluded to the fact that she would be burned at the stake. so instead of doing that, they ran her through with the sword. but they basically anile lated the tribe. in 1610. that process of annihilation, and that process of stealing from...
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intend and it strives to put bad intentions at the feet of everyone from the folks who came here at jamestown to look for a new land to the people who stepped foot in plymouth, massachusetts to the people who debated and brought about the beginning of the end and we are still nowhere near it, the beginning and the end of racism and slavery. everyone from lincoln to wilson to you name it is on the chopping block and what is ridiculous is this has been dismissed by very credible academics. i always think about the guy named plato 2000 years ago who said the very same thing we are debating today. who will teach the children and what will they teaches some? there's nothing like great history, authentic original sources, to drive people to think for themselves. none of us wants to oppose a debate and a healthy debate on who did what and why, but the lens of 1619 says we started in 1619, not 1776. when the first slaves were brought here and that is why we are who we are and we have to change who we are. let's stop about changing who we are through the lens of history. neil: by all means include it,
intend and it strives to put bad intentions at the feet of everyone from the folks who came here at jamestown to look for a new land to the people who stepped foot in plymouth, massachusetts to the people who debated and brought about the beginning of the end and we are still nowhere near it, the beginning and the end of racism and slavery. everyone from lincoln to wilson to you name it is on the chopping block and what is ridiculous is this has been dismissed by very credible academics. i...
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atkins, and it just really illuminates the bloodthirsty, land grabbing invaders that set foot at jamestown on may 14, 1607. and less than three years later, lord delaware ore ordered the annihilation of a tribe and by 1699, nine out of ten of the virginia woodland indians had perished so this -- the story that you told really resonates with me because forced removal for us and other virginia indians occurred in 1646, and the department of education across the states has skillfully, artfully left out that history so we're surrounded by dominant culture that's largely ignorant of the tragedies that occurred among the indigenous people, beginning may 14, 1607. >> thank you. we've had the same problem in our oklahoma textbooks. at least when i was growing up, there's virtually nothing about the indian tribes. in oklahoma history, it virtually started with the land runs and our lands in 1889, but they've improved somewhat but not to the degree that they should. >> what is the status of those cherokees that did not do the -- were not -- because of various reasons, either they married a white per
atkins, and it just really illuminates the bloodthirsty, land grabbing invaders that set foot at jamestown on may 14, 1607. and less than three years later, lord delaware ore ordered the annihilation of a tribe and by 1699, nine out of ten of the virginia woodland indians had perished so this -- the story that you told really resonates with me because forced removal for us and other virginia indians occurred in 1646, and the department of education across the states has skillfully, artfully...
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it eliminates the blood thirsty land grabbing invaders that set foot at jamestown on may 14th, 16 oreven and less than three years later, lord delaware ordered -- by 16 99, nine out of ten of the virginia woodlands and aryan indians had perished. the story told really resonates with me because forced removal of the virginia indians occurred in 60 46. and the department of education across the state had skillfully artfully left out that history so we are surrounded by a culture that is largely ignorant of the tragedies not occurred among the indigenous people beginning may 14th 16 oh seven. >> thank you. we had the same problems in our oklahoma textbooks. at least when i was growing up there was nothing about the indian tribes. it's a home history stand started with the land runs in our lands in 19 -- 1899, but they've improved somewhat but not to the degree that they should. >> what is the status of those cherokee's that did not do -- or not, because of various reasons, they married a white person and did not do the trail of tears -- my understanding is they are not on the cherokee r
it eliminates the blood thirsty land grabbing invaders that set foot at jamestown on may 14th, 16 oreven and less than three years later, lord delaware ordered -- by 16 99, nine out of ten of the virginia woodlands and aryan indians had perished. the story told really resonates with me because forced removal of the virginia indians occurred in 60 46. and the department of education across the state had skillfully artfully left out that history so we are surrounded by a culture that is largely...
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host: john, jamestown, rhode island, democratic caller. caller: hi. host: go ahead.aller: i'm just thinking that, why not somewhere, make the united states of central america? then they would have a federal government to take care of these parts and stuff down there, racing around, killing people. if they did have one central government in that whole place, i don't know why it's never occurred to anyone. thank you. guest: thanks for that. there has been long-standing attempts at central american integration and it is not in the interest of forming one big government, but really integrating the region. it started in the 1960's, probably even before, but i remember in the 1960's, the attempt to create the central american common market, and economic integration scheme. you also see it in the kind of free-trade agreement the united states has with central american countries and that includes the dominican republic, to treat the area as a zone as opposed to individual countries. i think that, just as simone boulevard, the liberator -- bolivar wanted to unite south americ
host: john, jamestown, rhode island, democratic caller. caller: hi. host: go ahead.aller: i'm just thinking that, why not somewhere, make the united states of central america? then they would have a federal government to take care of these parts and stuff down there, racing around, killing people. if they did have one central government in that whole place, i don't know why it's never occurred to anyone. thank you. guest: thanks for that. there has been long-standing attempts at central...
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. >> john, jamestown rhode island, democratic. >> yeah, hi. >> hi don, go ahead. >> okay, let me get thoughts together really quickly here. i'm just thinking that might not somewhere either making united states in central america that they would have a central government to take care of all these little punks and stuff down there. you know, racing around, killing people. but if they did have one central government in that whole place, i don't know why it's never occurred to anyone. but go ahead, thank you. >> well thanks for that. there have been long-standing attempts, you know, at central american integration and it's not in the interest of forming, you know, one big government but really integrating the region. it started in the sixties, a probably even before. but i'm remembering is in the 1960s with the attempted to create the central american common market which was an economic integration scheme. you see it also in the kind of free trade agreement that the united states has with central american countries and that includes the dominican republic to treat the area as a zone as
. >> john, jamestown rhode island, democratic. >> yeah, hi. >> hi don, go ahead. >> okay, let me get thoughts together really quickly here. i'm just thinking that might not somewhere either making united states in central america that they would have a central government to take care of all these little punks and stuff down there. you know, racing around, killing people. but if they did have one central government in that whole place, i don't know why it's never occurred...
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>> you mentioned george karl, and i have to put, in a plug for the national comedy center up in jamestownew york, just south of buffalo, and the cover everything, even from harris thoughtfulness and lose a strata, which is an acre change creek play about the women and the village wanting to stop the men from waging war so they withheld their sexual favors from them and it is all covered up to george karlyn and leni bruce. and it is like a smithsonian of comedy and then they have the blue room, isn't blue humor, you have to be 18 years of age and you walk in there and there are a foot and a half-sized letters all over the room and the four walls of george karlyn's seven where you can see on television. they have leni bruises raincoat that he would wear on stage because in case he was arrested, so he can just have a rain coat to wear in the police department. so it's quite a place, it's very interesting. >> where your favorite women performers? i think you can think of? >> i loved james -- jae-in curtain, i think she was very funny and rosie o'donnell i think has great weight and is funny a
>> you mentioned george karl, and i have to put, in a plug for the national comedy center up in jamestownew york, just south of buffalo, and the cover everything, even from harris thoughtfulness and lose a strata, which is an acre change creek play about the women and the village wanting to stop the men from waging war so they withheld their sexual favors from them and it is all covered up to george karlyn and leni bruce. and it is like a smithsonian of comedy and then they have the blue...
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historians and educators emphasize the pim grims plymouth colony over earlier settlements such as jamestowninia. >> the goal
historians and educators emphasize the pim grims plymouth colony over earlier settlements such as jamestowninia. >> the goal
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we actually own and operate the john marshall house smith court, lighthouse and also stork jamestown. so i have the opportunity to be the director of museum operations for all those wonderful historic places. but, we're also an organization that the statewide preservation and there's a lot of people we've actually worked with that john marshall and his family would have interacted with. for example we been in coordination to support the creation of a memorial park. we also worked to preserve the lodge which is also in richmond. both of those sites were included so also had a wonderful restoration team and we have been able to restore john marshall's childhood home. we worked on places like monumental church which was a church that marshall helped found in richmond. and so now i'll get to the john marshall house. they marshall house was built in 1794 john marshall and his family. he lived there until his death in 1835. at that time it actually passed to his daughter and then his granddaughter before and being to the city. so when john marshall had this house is built in 1790, it was al
we actually own and operate the john marshall house smith court, lighthouse and also stork jamestown. so i have the opportunity to be the director of museum operations for all those wonderful historic places. but, we're also an organization that the statewide preservation and there's a lot of people we've actually worked with that john marshall and his family would have interacted with. for example we been in coordination to support the creation of a memorial park. we also worked to preserve...
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i have to put in a plug for the national comedy center up in jamestown, new york, which is just southof buffalo. and they cover everything even from aristotheny smplt, an ancient greek play about all the women in the village wanted to stop their husbands from waging war so they withheld their sexual favors from them. and it's all covered right up to george carlin and lenny bruce and is a brilliant -- it's like a smithsonian of comedy. and then they have the blue room as in blue humor. you have to be 18 years of age. and you walk in there and there are foot and a half size letters on all four walls, george carlin's seven words you can't say on television. they have lenny bruce's raincoat that he would wear on stage in case he was arrested so he could just have a raincoat to wear to the police department. and so it's quite a place if you're interested in comedy. >> who are your favorite women performers? wanda sykes, joan rivers, anybody else? >> i love jane curtain. i thought she was great, very funny. rosie o'donnell, i think, has a great wit and is funny as well. i know the president
i have to put in a plug for the national comedy center up in jamestown, new york, which is just southof buffalo. and they cover everything even from aristotheny smplt, an ancient greek play about all the women in the village wanted to stop their husbands from waging war so they withheld their sexual favors from them. and it's all covered right up to george carlin and lenny bruce and is a brilliant -- it's like a smithsonian of comedy. and then they have the blue room as in blue humor. you have...
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president kamala harris discussed the infrastructure bill at gill ford technical community college in jamestowneve that infrastructure is about all the support systems that make our country work. roads that keep us moving. water that keeps us healthy. broadband that keeps us connected. and care, child care, home care. >> for our report from in the room we are joined by democratic senator john hickenlooper of colorado and served as governor of colorado from 2011 to 2019. senator, thank you for joining us tonight. >> of course. >> so you had a -- let's see a republican -- two republican senators in there, two republican members of the house, mitt romney, joe hoeven of north dakota. did they find areas of an i greemt with you and president biden in that discussion today? >> yeah. i think there were definite, a, a positive energy first and we may not have come together on some of the particulars, but there was an i think a general optimism and a belief that we were all there and we all felt that this was something that needed to happen. we need to invest in our infrastructure. >> and did it help th
president kamala harris discussed the infrastructure bill at gill ford technical community college in jamestowneve that infrastructure is about all the support systems that make our country work. roads that keep us moving. water that keeps us healthy. broadband that keeps us connected. and care, child care, home care. >> for our report from in the room we are joined by democratic senator john hickenlooper of colorado and served as governor of colorado from 2011 to 2019. senator, thank you...
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because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginia, 1619. and they were lucky.-- who knows how many millions didn't even make it through the middle passage. let's be honest. this -- the history of this country is full of blood of native americans, who their land was brelegated to kill off the buffalo, relegated to -- i don't even call 'em reservations. i'm gonna call them concentration camps. and slavery of the africans, that's how this country was built. on the genocide of the native people. stealing the land. and slavery. that is the foundation of this country. >> spike lee. i appreciate your time. thank you. >> anderson, any time for you, my man. anytime. >>> just ahead. the investigation we mentioned earlier into the police shooting of -- of a black, 16-year-old girl in ohio. this happened right before the chauvin jury announced its decision yesterday. but with key differences in the two cases. we are going to show you the video and examine whether the use of force was justified , whn we continue. biden: when i think about climate change, the word i think of
because my ancestors landed in jamestown, virginia, 1619. and they were lucky.-- who knows how many millions didn't even make it through the middle passage. let's be honest. this -- the history of this country is full of blood of native americans, who their land was brelegated to kill off the buffalo, relegated to -- i don't even call 'em reservations. i'm gonna call them concentration camps. and slavery of the africans, that's how this country was built. on the genocide of the native people....
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organization -- and so -- we own and operate john patrick house and capital smith sports, lighthouse and jamestown and so i have the opportunity to be the director of museum operations for all of those wonderful historic places. but we're also an organization that the statewide preservation and so there's a lot of places that we've actually worked with that johnew marshall and his family would have distracted with, for example, we have been advocate it support the creation of a nine acre memorial shop bottom and we've also worked to preserve the lodge a which is ao in rich monday and both of those sites were included as part of our annual dangerous historic sites program. and so also we had a wonderful restoration team and we've been able to restore john marshall childhood home which is called hollow in the county and lost on places like monumental church which was a church that marshall helped found in richmond. and so -- now we'll get to the john marshall house. [laughter] so n the marshall house it was built in 1790 for john marshall and his family and hi lived there until 1935 and at that time
organization -- and so -- we own and operate john patrick house and capital smith sports, lighthouse and jamestown and so i have the opportunity to be the director of museum operations for all of those wonderful historic places. but we're also an organization that the statewide preservation and so there's a lot of places that we've actually worked with that johnew marshall and his family would have distracted with, for example, we have been advocate it support the creation of a nine acre...
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president kamala harris discussed the infrastructure bill, at guilford technical community college in jamestownbelieve the infrastructure is about all support systems, that make our country work. roads that keep us moving, water that keeps us healthy. broadband that keeps us connected. in care, child care, home care. >> for our report from in the room, we are joined tonight by democratic senator john hickenlooper of colorado. he was in today's bipartisan oval office meeting, with the president. he served as the governor of colorado from 2011 to 2019, senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. i really appreciate it. >> of course. >> so you had let's see, a republican, two republican senators in, there you had to republican members of the house, she had romney, john hoeven of north dakota, did they find areas in agreement with you and president biden in that discussion today? >> yes i think there were, there was a positive energy first. and we may not have come together on some of the particulars, but there was, i think a general optimism and belief, that we were all there and we all f
president kamala harris discussed the infrastructure bill, at guilford technical community college in jamestownbelieve the infrastructure is about all support systems, that make our country work. roads that keep us moving, water that keeps us healthy. broadband that keeps us connected. in care, child care, home care. >> for our report from in the room, we are joined tonight by democratic senator john hickenlooper of colorado. he was in today's bipartisan oval office meeting, with the...
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pilgrims and stephen hopkins, a stranger who appears to have been in jamestown before boarding, who hadexperience with native americans. at this point -- they go on hard pack native trails that crisscross new england at this time. about 45 mile walk from plymouth to pocono kick. there are no horses yet in plymouth colony so they're walking these trails and they have just left the settlement. they come across a group of native americans who have been collecting lobsters at plymouth harbor. they begin to talk. >> as they conversed with their new companions, the englishman learned that the walk across the land in southern new england was to travel in time. all along this narrow hard packed trail were circular foot deep holes in the ground that had been dug where any remarkable act had occurred. it was each person's responsibility to maintain the holes and to inform fellow travelers what had once happened at that particular place so that many things of great antiquity are fresh and memory. winds low and hopkins began to see that they were traversing a mythical land or a sense of community e
pilgrims and stephen hopkins, a stranger who appears to have been in jamestown before boarding, who hadexperience with native americans. at this point -- they go on hard pack native trails that crisscross new england at this time. about 45 mile walk from plymouth to pocono kick. there are no horses yet in plymouth colony so they're walking these trails and they have just left the settlement. they come across a group of native americans who have been collecting lobsters at plymouth harbor. they...
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host: john, jamestown, rhode island, democratic caller. caller: hi. host: go ahead. just thinking that, why not somewhere, make the united states of central america? then they would have a federal government to take care of these parts and stuff down there, racing around, killing people. if they did have one central government in that whole place, i don't know why it's never occurred to anyone. thank you. guest: thanks for that. there has been long-standing attempts at central american integration and it is not in the interest of forming one big government, but really integrating the region. it started in the 1960's, probably even before, but i remember in the 1960's, the attempt to create the central american common market, and economic integration scheme. you also see it in the kind of free-trade agreement the united states has with central american countries and that includes the dominican republic, to treat the area as a zone as opposed to individual countries. i think that, just as simone boulevard, the liberator -- bolivar wanted to unite south america, certain
host: john, jamestown, rhode island, democratic caller. caller: hi. host: go ahead. just thinking that, why not somewhere, make the united states of central america? then they would have a federal government to take care of these parts and stuff down there, racing around, killing people. if they did have one central government in that whole place, i don't know why it's never occurred to anyone. thank you. guest: thanks for that. there has been long-standing attempts at central american...
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we know a lot about the nonprofit camps, the jamestown, boys and girls club and ymca, out of school time. all of those camps. older kids know what sfusd summer school looks like. what none of us have ever seen is what are these sfusd camps for younger kids and that we never had before. what are the academic programs and curriculum that you're looking at this summer that's going to be available to sfusd kids. if you can describe that little bit more detail. >> sure. i want to be clear, it's not just sfusd. it's the academic integration is actually going to go into all of our programming. like rec and park will have learning integrated in their curriculum. some of the rec and park sites they'll go deeper into science or language or math and things like that. school-based summer programming, we are going to be very intentional in bringing in leading language art specialists so that families can choose that option will have more intentional support for those kids. we're also negotiating with another provider to bring in math support and we're also talking about individual tutoring support. w
we know a lot about the nonprofit camps, the jamestown, boys and girls club and ymca, out of school time. all of those camps. older kids know what sfusd summer school looks like. what none of us have ever seen is what are these sfusd camps for younger kids and that we never had before. what are the academic programs and curriculum that you're looking at this summer that's going to be available to sfusd kids. if you can describe that little bit more detail. >> sure. i want to be clear,...
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insofar as jamestown appears on any map, it's associated with slavery. which is why it's not -- she doesn't want it to be a turning point in american history. if it's the turning point in american history, you can't not talk about slavery. right? if you say the pilgrims came here for freedom, then you can first of all ignore the fact thatitans in new england had slaves, which they did. second of all, you can say that's not part of the essential identity of america. that happened down south. the real origin is up here with this morally elevated crew of people who came. right? these histories are creating a national story that's doing important cultural work in creating that sense of a national identity. incidentally, i was listening to lectures about the american revolution, which i do when i run sometimes. sorry. i'm very nerdy that way. they were talking about jefferson's draft of the declaration of independence and this famous elimination. he charges the king with having forced them in the slave trade. there's people in congress who feel a little tende
insofar as jamestown appears on any map, it's associated with slavery. which is why it's not -- she doesn't want it to be a turning point in american history. if it's the turning point in american history, you can't not talk about slavery. right? if you say the pilgrims came here for freedom, then you can first of all ignore the fact thatitans in new england had slaves, which they did. second of all, you can say that's not part of the essential identity of america. that happened down south. the...