and then the island itself, the original site of jamestown, is co-managed by the national park service and preservation virginia so it's an unusual private/public partnership that goes on here. the park service owns the majority of the island, 1500 acres. preservation virginia has around 23. they're 23 acres incorporated the site of the original fort, the church, the church tower and the last government building that was on the property. so they've got a lot of history condensed in that 23 acres. and it's the preservation virginia who are doing the archaeology that visitors will see on the site today. we call our project "jamestown rediscovery" so we're the james town rediscovery project of preservation virginia. we do not get federal support and we do not get state support for our work so we're highly reliant on visitors and donations. we get half of the gate receipts of visitors coming through and grants. that's how we survive. it's hard in these times. >> the site is incredibly rich. just amazing. and we've been walking over the material all these years. it's been under our feeft wh