here to help clear this up are attorney gloria allred, jami floyd, anchor of "best defense" and "in session." and john fogt, contributor to the huffington post. debra tate, sharon tate's sister said yesterday, there is rape and then there is rape. gloria, rape is rape, isn't it? >> well, of course, nothing was determined, because he entered a plea. entered a plea to unlawful sexual intercourse which is a felony. he admitted he understood at that time she was 13 years old. even if he hadn't confessed to it, in the grand jury testimony, there was a lot of testimony from the victim, joy, that, in fact, he had given her way lewd, that he had given her champagne. there was semen in her panties. he had engaged in various acts. for example, sodomy. so i think that we have to understand that this was a crime. >> yeah, but why are they saying -- why is the sister of sharon tate saying, you know, there's rape and there's rape? what kind of thinking is that? >> i'm not a lawyer, first of all. i'm a movie guy. >> but you play one on tv. >> i think there is a difference between statutory rape and classi