. >> rose: was it jamie bennett? that's exactly it, he knew james bennett. i think we overlapped the times together and he wrote james and said, you should take a look at this guy. i'm sorry david is not here to see this. >> rose: i miss him. he was such an often guest on this program and he just had something unique about the ability to go right to the core, and even if everybody else was somewhere else he knew where it was. >> he did. >> rose: why is what you were doing resonating so much and so deeply with people like toni morrison? >> that, i can't answer. i don't know. what i can tell you is i think certain aspects of african-american humanity and anger is one of those aspects, are not allowed to be aired in public the same way with other people. i think there's great fear when black people talk about their anger, negative emotions and hatred of certain things. i think that makes people very, very uncomfortable. >> rose: you also think though, that -- and help me understand, and i don't want to define you i want you to define yourself -- in a sense that

and his bentley is about to find out. >> it is one of the lots from the bennett family. >> next. jamie real estate developer ed bennett build his home with quirky furniture from national craftsmen george, and to of ens children grow around this stuff with the tables and chairs and the bench all crafted by george. one piece in particular embodied the close on shared by the children. >> my favorite piece by far was the dining room table. >> we would gather round the table and it turned out that it was blended quite well. >> the black walnut tree given the second life by george and he cherishes and for the rest of his. >> is the center of the family there were ford generations at that table. >> it seems like there's another person another chair that there. jamie: march 2013 the family gathered around it for of neil. said is 93 and seriously ill. >> sitting at the head of the table where he always sits. we didn't know for sure it would be his last one but it was. >> two years later edmund then it dies. jamie: it is so kind to share. >> his will provides generously ford ibm but he leaves a