jamie dimon, who now runs j.p.organ/chase, the vindicated jamie dimon, they say the resurrection of john pierpont morgan, he apparently in private expressions consternation. >> and in public in "the new york times." >> he apparently has designs on doing the magnanimous thing and ultimately rising to treasury or cabinet-level appointment and he will have second thoughts about it now. "do i really want to go into this den of hostile behavior?" >> charlie: last word, you, mr. sorkin, on business and -- do you think this is a breach -- i'll tell you what my impression is -- i think you can heal these kinds of things. i think it is within the power of the bully pulpit and within the power of the presidency to begin to take steps -- it doesn't mean that he will face -- he will get less votes from the business community when he runs for re-election than he got the first time -- >> or less money. >> charlie: or less money, exactly, more importantly, perhaps -- but he will, in fact, be able to speak to the question in a num