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>> yes, jamie and donald trump were both sworn in to their first terms in office in january 2017. r freshman year at harvard when he was dating my roommate. he spent a lot of time in my suite of rooms freshman year. when jamie became my congressman, i felt that i was in, finally in really good hands in terms of being represented by somebody who shared my values. >> i love that back story. you start filming with raskin in 2018 when the big headlines were about the mueller report. you ended up with a very different story. what was it like to have the film shift so dramatically? >> what happened is we just, i kept not having an ending. originally i had thought, well mueller is already been -- mueller and his team had been working for about a year my first day of filming was july 4th, 2018. i thought that mueller report was going to come out any day that summer. it had been over a year. what i thought was going to happen is that trump would be quickly impeached and that jamie would be on the front lines of that because he was on the house judiciary committee. i thought i would be follo

donald trump. our special correspondent jamie is joining us right now. tell our viewers what you are learning. >> what we found out, according to multiple sources, the january 6th committee has obtained phone records from a member of the trump family. this is a first. eric trump, as well as kimberly guilfoyle, who is engaged to donald trump jr. as far as we know, this is the first time the committee has issued a subpoena targeting one of the trump children, and it really underscores just how aggressive the committee is willing to be in its investigation. for some context, the records the committee has obtained include eric trump's cellphone and a cellphone number for kimberly guilfoyle. we've confirmed both numbers from multiple sources who know both trump and guilfoyle. for the record, eric trump dough cliend to comment on the subpoena of his call records, but a source familiar with his thinking tells me, quote, he is not losing sleep over it. and an attorney for kimberly guilfoyle said she has not been notified of any subpoena being issued for her reco

were charged with seditious conspiracy's, why is donald trump sharing the stage with the self proclaimed oath keepers? plus, our last congressman, jamie raskin, we'll talk about the conspiracies of why he says prime time hearings will blow the roof off the house. and ezra klein and carol anderson, is saying that the biden presidency isn't going as planned. good evening from washington d.c., in for chris hayes. long before donald trump had any real presidential language, republican controlled states across the country were disenfranchising people of color, in fact the modern era of the voting rights struggle began before the 2020 election. it began more than two decades ago with the 2000 presidential election. george w. bush versus al gore. that of course, came down to the state of florida. and of paper thin 500 voting majority for bush. in its wake, the u.s. commission and conducted an election process and found, quote, a widespread voter disenfranchisement that fell harshly of black voters. they concluded that statewide, black voters were nearly ten times more likely than non black voters to have their ballot rejected. there were mul

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donald trump. why not ask jamie herrera butler to talk to them?o doesn't always pick up the phone and if they don't talk to you, they don't talk to you on the record and sometimes they don't tell you the truth. this investigation is pursuing phone records, metadata, you know, people that are responsive to subpoenas. it seems like there are other ways to get at what kevin mccarthy and when -- i mean, and i would guess that the phone log when he talked to him is important too. >> yes. no, that's right. and that's why, you know, mark meadows is refusing to testify, but he's turned over a lot of documentation. you know, this story, in the end, will not have a lot of mysteries. there will not be a lot of secrets. i think we will know, really, what happened and who did what, including what did the president do, you know, how did he spend those hours when the capitol was being attacked by his supporters in his name? we're going to know all of that. so, look, the problem that kevin mccarthy has is that, you know, he can't cooperate because that would risk

i'll ask jamie raskin why they want to interview the former president's daughter. and is donaldoing to be criminally charged in georgia? >> so what are we going to do here folks? i know we need 11,000 votes. fellas, i need 11,000 votes, give me a break. >> why today's announcement of a special grand jury of the case against donald trump. when all in, starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. the day is january 20th, 2022. it is exactly one year in t

. >>> on "morning joe," jamie raskin led the second impeachment effort against donald trump followingf the insurrection's one-year anniversary. >>> plus, one of the men who defended the capitol that day, police officer harry dunn will join the conversation. you won't want to miss that. "morning joe" is a few minutes away. now, she can have her cake and eat it too. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? people with moderate to severe psoriasis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the entrance they make, the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight l

statements came into the senate impeachment trial through republican congresswoman jamie herrera butler who told he had called donald trump on january 6th essentially to say help us, save us from this and trump said it's not my people, it's not maga, it's antifa. he said no, it's your people and you got to save us and famously said well maybe more than you do. cover up the fact he called these dogs off and covered up because they're so sick of submissive to this pathological leader donald trump. >> it's weird. but, you know, kevin mccarthy has a different view about whether people ought to come before congress when asked. here is his -- this is what he had to say about the benghazi committee, there were 11 different benghazi hearings and here he is, hillary clinton. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right? but we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. why? because she's untrustable. but no one would have known aun -- any of that had happened. >> i give you credit for that. >> that of course cost him his last opportunity

one member the 1/6 committee who was also the lead impeachment manager in donald trump's second impeachment trial, congressman jamie raskin, who has made january 6th a central focus of his work in congress in part because the attack, deeply personal for everyone present in the u.s. capitol on that day, also for him, collided with the darkest and most shattering event of his life, the loss of his 25-year-old son, tommy, to suicide just days before. tommy was laid to rest on january 5th of last year, one year ago today on what we now know was to be the eve of the insurrection. congressman raskin describes the two events as permanently and inextricably linked in his mind. in his new book, aptly titled "unthinkable" on january 6th his daughter tab that and son-in-law hank came with him to the capitol, the family unwilling and unable to leave each other alone in their grief. it was to them that raskin's mind first darted as he learned that rioters breached the capitol and that untold danger lay ahead for all of them. he recounts the scene. all i can consider now is tab that and hank. i am worried sick for them, they are

donald trump, begging them to do something. the same thing came out during the senate impeachment trial when congresswoman jamie herrara butler filed an uncontradicted stipulated statement in to evidence in the trial, saying that kevin mccarthy had reported that he had begged donald trump essentially to call off the dogs. and, remember, that earned the famous reply from donald trump, well maybe they're just more interested in a fair election than you are, kevin. so the picture that is emerging is of the commander in chief refusing to come to the aid of congress. the republicans in congress, the democrats in congress, the staff in congress, everybody was there, refusing to come to aid because he thought that this violent insurrection would aid him in the attempt at af effectuating a coup against mike pence and seizing the presidency for another time. that seems to be a clear portrait that is emerging. >> why haven't you tried to talk to rudy giuliani yet? >> i don't know exactly where we are on mr. giuliani. i will tell you, we want to talk to everyone. we think it is not only everybody's legal duty, it should be everybody's civic h

jamie raskin of maryland. he was the lead house manager in donald trump's second impeachment trial, which came about as a result of january 6. he is the author of the new book "unthinkable, trauma, truth and the trials of american democracy." congressman, good to see you. thanks for being with us. i want to follow off of what betsy said. what we are learning in our reporting every day is that there are more things to be learned about january 6, despite the fact that when you were a house manager for the impeachment, you had such detail and so much information and yet there's so much more. my question for you is, where does it lead and when do we find out that someone will be held accountable? we saw the oath keepers charged this week. is that as good as it gets? >> thank you for having me. the senate impeachment trial dealt with one guy and one crime. incitement to violent insurrection. the select committee on january 6 has undertaken a more sweeping investigation into every level of activity taking place. i told you before that i see this as a coup surrounded by a violent insurrection surrounded by a mob riot.

jamie raskins reflections of the loss of his son the violence at the capitol on january 6th of 2021 and the second impeachment of former president donald trump. and wrapping up our look at the washington post's best-selling. nonfiction books is novelists and patchett's collection of essays these precious days. some of these authors have appeared on book tv and you can watch their programs anytime at book tv.org. just as stephen breyer recently announced his plans to retire from the supreme court appointed by president clinton in 1994. his departure will provide president biden with his first supreme court nomination last october justice breyer discussed his latest book the authority of the court and the peril of politics. here's his response to protesters asking him to retire. of best-selling books from different eras. so before i introduce our guests, i do want to thank our sponsors like so many of our programs tonight's program is sponsored by the wish you well foundation and by connecticut public wnpr, and it'

ahead this morning, we're going to speak with congressman jamie raskin, who led the second impeachment effort against donald trump following the january 6th attack on the capitol. and we'll be joined by one of the men who defended the capitol that day. u.s. capitol police officer harry dunn. >>> good morning and welcome to "morning joe." it is wednesday, january 5th. with us, along with joe, willie, and me, we have the host of "way too early" and white house bureau chief at "politico," jonathan lemire. and bureau chief for "usa today," susan page is with us this morning. >>> the story we were covering throughout the show yesterday, going throughout the day and throughout the night, the thousands of drivers trapped for more than 24 hours along interstate 95 in virginia, after parts of the highway became impassable due to a snowstorm. nbc news correspondent tom costello takes us through the ordeal. >> reporter: an epic traffic disaster. thousands of cars brought to a standstill by that massive storm dropping a foot of snow on the d.c. region. overwhelming road crews and trapping thousands of people. the elder

start with the supreme court rejecting donald trump's request to keep the record from the january 6th committee. we're watching that play out this week. congressman jamie raskin tweeting out, if the former president has no executive privilege to hide evidence of an attempted coup or insurrection, neither do his family or friends. ivanka was with donald trump as the attack unfolded, she is a material fact witness. what position does this all put ivanka? >> first of all i got a tweet answering my tweet, stop saying family and friends. first of all, she was an employee. >> she was an employee. you are correct about that. they are correct about that. >> secondly, she's a co-conspirator, possibly. so we should not call his colleague, friends, family that. we should call them co-conspirators, but this is not a surprise. u.s. v. nixon, the case in watergate saying that president nix had to turn over the white house tapes applied here, and there was no question in my mind that ivanka would have to testify and turn over documents, the former president has to do the same, that every single other person. the former president, richard nixon, while he was president

representative jamie raskin, he is a member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol and served as the lead impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. he is the author of the new book, unthinkable trauma, truth, and the trials of american democracy. congressman jamie raskin, let me get your reaction to leader mccarthy refusing to submit to an interview with the committee. >> well good evening lawrence. you know, what comes to mind is that i am guessing, only, that he's hiding two things. one, he's hiding from the trump base which he has now tried to dive into. the fact that he did express outrage and some measure of independent critical thinking at that point. so he's trying to conceal the fact that he considered at least the violent insurrection part of the day's activity a major threat to human life and limb. and to our democracy. but he also maybe trying to hide the fact that he was implicated in the political coup in the mention of the day 's activity. he may have been totally with the program in terms of trying to get vice president, mike pence, to unilaterally reject electoral college votes invoking essentially lawless

i'll ask jamie raskin why they want to interview the former president's daughter. and is donald trump going to be criminally charged in georgia? >> so what are we going to do here folks? i know we need 11,000 votes. fellas, i need 11,000 votes, give me a break. >> why today's announcement of a special grand jury of the case against donald trump. when all in, starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. the day is january 20th, 2022. it is exactly one year into the first term of the 46th president of the united states, joseph, are biden. and one year since this moment. the year of the one term of the twice impeached, disgraced, ex president, donald trump. >> but we really did. we've gotten so much don that nobody thought would be possible and i do want to thank congress. i want to thank all the great people of washington d.c.. all of the people that we worked with to put this miracles together. so, have a good life. we will see you soon, thank you. thank you very much. thank you very much. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> have a good life, i'll tell you, we are trying. it's not easy

. >> jamie, congresswoman cheney was also asked about the possibility of criminal charges against donalder answer. >> the committee has firsthand testimony that president trump was sitting in the dining room next to the oval office, watching on television as the capitol was assaulted, as the violence occurred. we know that that is clearly a supreme dereliction of duty. one of the things the committee is looking at from the perspective our legislative purpose is whether we need enhanced penalties for that kind of dereliction of duty. >> walk us through congresswoman liz cheney's thinking here because she still seems to think the committee can produce enough evidence to change the minds some of republicans on this. >> well, she certainly hopes so because after all, she has given up politics as she says for democracy. i think it's going to come down to what they are going to be able to learn, obviously, from witnesses, documents they collect. we will know much more when the hearings happen. but just as an example, one witness that we know of who has given a deposition to the committee is ke

jamie raskin is out with a new book. he's been talking in blunt terms about donald trump's party and what he says is cult-like behavior.s it. talking about people who are in denial about january 6th. >> i feel bad for those people because they are essentially in a political religious cult, and their cult leader, donald trump, is telling them they can't believe their own eyes, the evidence of their own experience and their own ears. so we should try to embrace those people and help them through what they're going through because they've been fed lies and they're swallowing the lies and some of them may have thought they were clever at the beginning, that they could just go along with it and not believe it, but many of them have allowed the lies really to seep into their sole and it's beginning to rot their minds. >> taking it even a step further, raskin told "the new york times" he's aware of books about cults and deprogramming to try to understand his republican colleagues. hearing that reading that made me want to talk to diane benscoter, firsthand experience with the cult member with the reunification church in the 1

rigged election lie, became a lit us in t litmus test in this country, donald trump on one side, leading one side of it. >> jamie, these are live pictures we're showing our viewers where the president and vice president will be speaking from inside historic statuary hall on capitol hill. i want to follow up on what gloria was reporting, according to "the washington post," at least 163 republicans have embraced trump's false claims and are running for statewide positions that would give them authority in upcoming elections. >> they have embraced the lie. they have embraced donald trump's base. and that's how they think they can get through primaries and get elected. and we have seen those republicans who didn't either have to retire or lose their elections and primaries. i want to point out earlier today, stephanie grisham, who was former press secretary, and worked with melania trump, she went, voluntarily, to cooperate with the january 6th committee yesterday. and she said something that i think you pointed out, she was not at the white house on january 6th. she was working remotely. she said something this mor

were charged with seditious conspiracy's, why is donald trump sharing the stage with the self proclaimed oath keepers? plus, our last congressman, jamiein, we'll talk about the conspiracies of why he says prime time hearings will blow the roof off the house. and ezra klein and carol anderson, is saying that the biden presidency isn't going as planned. good evening from washington d.c., in for chris hayes. long before donald trump had any real presidential language, republican controlled states across the country were disenfranchising people of color, in fact the modern era of the voting rights struggle began before the 2020 election.

. >> neal katyal, jamie raskin the maryland democratic congressman on the january 6 committee posted this to twitter this evening about donald trump and ivanka trump. he said if the former president has no executive privilege to hide evidence of an attempted coup or insurrection, neither do his family or friends. if ivanka trump was with donald trump as the attack unfolded, she is a material fact witness. i look forward to her testimony. what does he mean by that? >> he is a hundred percent right. what the supreme court did yesterday in the 8-1 decision is it said that trump couldn't hide from the american people documents about what he was doing on january 6th. if you can't hide the documents and this is congressman raskin's point you also can't hide the witnesses from testifying. that includes ivanka, it includes a whole cast of characters. that whole team insurrection banked on the fact they thought they had the supreme court so this could make these absurd privilege claims and the supreme court would bail them out. not only did the supreme court wound their defense fatally it did so on an expedited schedule. and so their

jamie raskin, will get to the bottom of things. but the culprits have to be held accountable. it's not enough to simply announce something that most of us already believe — namely that donald trumpf staff, and his inner circle planned the coup that almost succeeded. they have to be held accountable. that means indicting them if the evidence supports it, and i argued in a new york times opinion piece a couple of days ago that the evidence certainly supports more of an investigation than we see the justice department engaging in now. and that is your opinion — but i dare say that merrick garland, despite being a friend of yours, wouldn't tell you exactly where he's inclined to go in terms of a criminal investigation, even if he were on the phone to you. i mean, he has the right — indeed, surely he has the obligation to actually keep his cards close to his chest, and you appear to be prejudging the issue. now, you're a renowned constitutional expert. what is the validation for prejudging? i am not prejudging. i am saying that the evidence is there for an investigation, and all experts — and that includes people on the republican side, as well, someone like don ayer, who was the dep

nobody knows more than ivanka trump does about donald trump's thoughts, feelings, intentions, his mind that day and after. >> that is exactly right. and as jamie was just reporting, you cannot over state how much influence the former president's daughter/senior adviser had on her father not just in personal terms as a daughter but much more importantly for four years as a senior adviser. that is why people would go to her when they wanted to try to get to her father on days that were not january 6th. the four years leading up to that day. but on that day, clearly, from what we are hearing from this letter, there was even more pressure on her to be the person to finally get to her father. it is really noteworthy there was actual testimony from somebody as jamie said is, was a trump loyalist explaining that dynamic. doesn't say anything about whether ivanka trump will actually come because we have to emphasize she was asked to come voluntarily. but i just want to add one other note. we have reported months ago about the disconnect, intentional disconnect by jared and ivanka kushner in order to distance themselves from him politically. you talked

jamie raskin of maryland. he's a member of the january six committee and serves the lead impeachment manager and the second impeachment trial of donaldhe is the author of the new book, unthinkable. and importantly for our purposes tonight he is a professor of constitutional law. i don't know whether i should call you congressman or professor raskin tonight. but i am eager to get your reaction to where things stand tonight with justice breyer and formal announcement today, the presidents promise to make a decision within the month of february and possibly on to senate confirmation hearings at some point in march. >> good evening, lawrence. thanks for having me. it's definitely an exciting moment. it always is when we can put someone new on the supreme court. i would hope this process moves as quickly as the process did for amy coney barrett when she was added to the supreme court. that was a matter of weeks for the whole thing to happen. i'm hoping that we're not going to run into a whole sequence of roadblocks was obstructions from the gop. and in terms of the decision that you were citing of course, being part of that decision, judg

ago i spoke with congressman jamie raskin, a member of the house select committee investigating the deadly january 6th capitol riot. and i asked him about former president donald whether the committee has plans to call him to testify. >> i think 99.9% repeating of the american people would come forward if they were accused of inciting a violent insurrection or organizing a violent insurrection against the government. and certainly if you're telling other people to go in and fight like hell and put their bodies on the line and you're willing to see other people die, you should show up and testify about what exactly you had in mind and what your plans were for the day. anybody who's not a snowflake would do that. >> why hasn't the committee called him in yet? >> well, we're proceeding methodically and working our way up the various conspiracies and plots to undo the election. it was a complicated situation on that day. >> you say we're moving forward methodically. does that mean you're waiting to gather more facts, do more work before you ask for donald trump to come into the committee? >> well, look, at the point in which anybody's testimony is relevant we are

donald trump and his allies. they knew full well that these documents were hard have legitimate. one might even say fraudulent. but it's congressman jamie raskin, a member of the january six committee told the new york times quote, the phony electors were part of a plan to create chaos on january six, as a pretext for a contingent election. they were an effort to create the illusion of contested state results in order to trigger the second part of the plan, to give mike pence an excuse to reject the electors. stop the certification and keep donald trump in power. we're still waiting to find out what, if anything, the january six committee that congressman raskin sits on is going to do about it. that raskin another members say they are now looking at the fixer difficulties and that's not at all, just last week the former trump campaign advisor epshteyn admitted to this plot. telling my colleague that he was involved in another familiar name was in charge. >> yes, i was part of the process to make sure there were alternate electors for women as we hope the challenges to the city electors would be heard and successful, part of the constitu

this is a warning to donald trump that pieces of the puzzle are coming together from behind the wall. >> perhaps more people than he knows have come forward. >> absolutely. >> jamieinating as always. thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> joining us to scott, scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w. bush, also worked for a long time formitch mcconnell. good morning. >> good morning. >> i should note for our viewers you as well as your former boss mcconnell have publicly condemned january 6th and criticized trump for his role in that. mcconnell did not vote to impeach here. i wonder as you hear that reporting about the pieces coming together, about at a minimum the president's inaction on the day of january 6th, are there enough puzzle pieces to come together in your view for the republican party, for the leaders across the board to step away from trump? >> well, it's a great question. i think the reckoning on this will come in 2024, if he seeks the nomination for the presidency again. look, i voted for him twice. i'm quite pleased with most of the policy outcomes of the trump administration, but what's become clear is that he violated his oat

don't expect anything that donald trump says this january 6th or going forward to change the facts of history. it was clear. >> and bakari sellers, we had reporting from jamie gangel a few minutes ago saying that there are republicans on capitol hill who think that kevin mccarthy's decision to pull all of the republicans that he wanted to put on the committee, to pull them off entirely, that that was unwise. he did that because nancy pelosi didn't want to put two of them on the committee. one of them, jim jordan, is probably going to be a witness. and anyway, there are a lot of republicans who think that was really unwise because you mccarthy has no visible hit into what's going on. he doesn't have any allies to push back or leak and keep him informed as to what's going on. >> as much as i talked about the messaging of the democrats and liz cheney coming out of this committee, the fact is, there's no messaging that will have any credibility pushing back against them. and a lot of times you know this better than i, jake, you have minority reports developed from these committees. in this case you'll not have that. again, it goes to the fact that we know that

jamie raskins reflections of the loss of his son the violence at the capitol on january 6th of 2021 and the second impeachment of former president donald trump. and wrapping up our look at the washington post's best-selling. nonfiction books is novelists and patchett's collection of essays these precious days. some of these authors have appeared on book tv and you can watch their programs anytime at book tv.org. next on book tv's author interview program afterwards political scientists barbara walter examines the warning signs that often proceed civil wars and discusses. what can be done to stop them. she's interviewed by smith college middle east studies chair steven heydemann. afterwards is a weekly interview program with relevant guest hosts interviewing top

jamie raskins reflections of the loss of his son the violence at the capitol on january 6th of 2021 and the second impeachment of former president donald trump. and wrapping up our look at the washington post's best-selling. nonfiction books is novelists and patchett's collection of essays these precious days. some of these authors have appeared on book tv and you can watch their programs anytime at book tv.org. next on book tv's author interview program afterwards political scientists barbara walter examines the warning signs that often proceed civil wars and discusses. what can be done to stop them. she's interviewed by smith college middle east studies chair steven heydemann. afterwards is a weekly interview program with relevant guest hosts interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. welcome barbara walter. it's a pleasure to have the chance to talk with you today. your book has generated an astonishing national debate about where we are as a country today during a moment of. quite extraordinary polarization and division and in the book you advance this this quite controversial claim that the us is closer to civil

congressman jamie raskin is a democrat from maryland, a member of the house select committee to investigate january 6th. he is the lead impeachment manager for the second trial of donald trump for his role in the insurrection. he has a new memoir about the insurrection and aftermath titled "unthinkable" and he joins me now. congressman, what do you see as the importance of shaping the understanding of this day one year after it happened, one year after you were there with your daughter and your son-in-law? >> well, it is everything. either people are going to understand that this is the expression of a basically fascistic movement that connects the highest reaches in the republican party and donald trump with violent fascistic street criminals or they don't understand that. but we are up against a serious, right wing authoritarian attack on american political democracy. so if we allow it to be swept under the rug or trivialized or minimized by people like matt gaetz then we are in very certain danger of opening the road to right wing authoritarianism to take over american government. >> i thought this image today of dick cheney and liz cheney in that chamber where the

documents, i don't think donald trump would have been -- fought so hard to keep them from the january 6th committee. we don't know, of course, what's in them. we do know representative jamie raskin has indicated it's going to be a shocking disclosure to the american people when these hearings start unfolding in the spring as far as what went on. and so, just to be clear, we'll know more than we knew in the second impeachment where jamie raskin laid out what happened that day. the question is not so much what happened at the capitol but what happened behind the scenes? and we know the justice department has already indicted 10 or 11 oath keeper people in that group for conspiracy, conspiracy. that requires a meeting of the minds, very high bar, and so i think the question from these documents is, did donald trump -- was he part of what looks like now a potential conspiracy? did he weigh in? did he agree to take steps to subvert a valid election? that would be unlawful. so, it's getting into the minds of the president and inside the white house and his handlers and potentially communications with congress. that's the actual hurt of, i think, what the committee is looking at

jamie, who has the details of the scene hannity texts. what have we learned from the new text messages? >> whether or not sean hannity cooperates with the committee, this is bad news for donald trump. these texts show sean hannity, mark meadows having exchanges that are in effect a betrayal. they are talking behind his back. and just for context, i want to point out what the committee's letter says at the top. they say that to hannity, quote, you clearly seem to have advanced knowledge regarding president trump and his legal team's planning that he was quote providing advice and that he had relevant communications while the riot was underway, that these communications make you hannity quote a fact witness. so let me just go through a couple of the texts, this first one is from december 31st, and this is sean hannity, the former chief of staff mark meadows. we can't lose the entire white house counsel's office. i do not see january 6th happening the way he is being told. he being trump. after the 6th, he should announce he will lead a nationwide effort to reform voting integrity, go to florida and watch joe, that would be president biden mess up daily, stay engaged when he sp

congressman jamie raskin, a member of the january 6th select committee, writes in his new book "unthinkable" about how they saw months before may of 2020 that the electoral count act was probably the way donald with the election because it was so squishy. so the electoral count act must be reformed, but doing that instead of passing e john lewis voting rights advancement act or the freedom to vote act, that's not a solution to the near term danger that faces the right to vote right now. >> woodruff: david, how do you see movement on these two things, or not? >> well, i think we probably need to do both but i think the democrats have to revamp approach to the national emergency january 6th started or donald trump started and is expanding to this day. there are three elements to an election -- casting, countering the votes and certifying the results. we do not have a crisis in casting votes. in 2020 we had the highest vote turnout in american history. we don't have a problem counting the votes, we counting the votes without fraud or error in 2020. we have a complete crisis in the certification of the votes. it's the third thing, complete crisisy state legislatures are politicizing the vote cer

jamie raskin's book "unthinkable" the holes in the electoral count act were to large -- and he is a constitutional law professor. he saw it coming. so they started working on that, trying to forestall anything that donald could do because of those holes. so no matter what happens today, that needs to be -- that needs to be fixed. that needs to be reformed. >> a.b., another drag on the president's approval ratings has, of course, been covid. what more can he do? there's also rising inflation which is a global problem but any president will be hurt by inflation in a reelection or midterm. what more can he do about those two big issues? >> well, again, once they dispense with the issue of voting rights and they can get at this reform of the electoral count act in a bipartisan way and say that they are working with republicans he needs to focus all of his attention on covid and the economy and talk about inflation, things that are improving, good signs on the horizon. that is the thing that voters are expressing in focus groups that they are the most upset about inflation and what the new omicron surge is doing to the economy and the prospects for growth down the pike, but they're very upset about inflatio

donald trump knew he was responsible. i think that is the important thing about that phone call, the one that jamie herrera butler testified that he just referenced in the second impeachment trial, you know, where -- where trump told mccarthy essentially that he is on the side the domestic terrorists to use a phrase ted cruz used, that he is on the side of the people who were storming the capitol, and that it was kevin who was the one that was wrong because he wasn't willing to stick with trump like the supposed great patriots that stormed our capitol in an attempt to overlow the election were, to the same degree that they were. i think that that phone call is extremely relevant because it gets to not just what is publically available that let us know that donald trump is responsible for january 6th. but there is proof there is direct evidence that in donald trump's mind he knew he was responsible and he continued to act the way he did. that's why mccarthy's testimony is so foreign. the man that organized brian jack, the effort in the house to try to overturn the election, that whipped the 100 some-odd republicans to take

congressman jamie raskin, more than six months before the 2020 election and the january 6th certification of the results, democrats started putting a plan in place for the inevitable, that donaldent, but what they weren't prepared for was this. in his book "unthinkable" congressman raskin writes we had predicted every maneuver coming our way except for one, the unleashing of mob violence, to overwhelm and stop the counting of votes and provide a pretexts and context for trump to potentially intervene with military force under the insurrection act to put down the uprising he himself had helped to organize. hindsight is 2020 but as raskin points out, the events of january 6th were not an accident. they were a carefully coordinated and planned attack on our democracy. joining me now is congressman jamie raskin of maryland. author of "unthinkable, trauma, truth and the trials of american democracy." i should point out you were on the january 6th select committee. congressman raskin, thank you very much for coming to "the sunday show." >> thank you very much for having me, jonathan. i'm delighted to be here. >> all right. so let's talk about part one as i've been calling it through

congressman jamie raskin's comments on this program yesterday about the three rings that the investigation focuses on. >> there was a mass demonstration, a wild demonstration called by donaldat was the outer ring of activity. the middle ring of activity was the insurrection itself, and that was the proud boys, the oath keepers, the three percenters, the militia groups, the first amendment praer toian, a bunch of organized extremist violent groups that were training for battle that broke our windows and that began the assault on the police officers that the rioters filled in on. but the scariest part of the day was really the inner ring of the coup, and there, the whole point was to try to force vice president mike pence to declare completely lawless powers to unilaterally reject and repudiate electoral college votes from arizona, from georgia, from pennsylvania and a handful of other states. >> so, dan, i have two questions about that. it would appear that witnesses like former white house press secretary stephanie grisham, who reported that donald trump was watching the insurrection gleefully, in her words, is an eye-witness to that third ring, the coup. is that your sens

examination of what jamie raskin sort of calls the second ring outside of the rioters who were the extremist groups and organizers, if you're looking at contact and sort of call and answer between donaldth. >> we're examining everything. one of the things that we made a pledge to each other about is not to dribble out little pieces of information until we have the entire picture to give to the american public. obviously, we're a legislative body. we don't have the power to criminally indict anyone. that's for the department of justice or for state law enforcement in the case of violation of state law. but we are going to get all of the facts. it's going to be made known to the american people if there are things that law enforcement agencies don't have, they will also have it, along with the american people. we're not collaborating with doj. that would be improper. but i strongly suspect that there is some overlap on our inquiries. >> congresswoman, i hear what you're saying. there's -- you can't talk about it yet. i know kayleigh mcenany participated in her deposition remotely yesterday. and i know one comment you've made on this program is that we focus a whole lot on the folks who