my name is jamie horwitz, member of the national press club and the newsmaker committee. on behalf of the club and committee, i want to thank you for joining us for this very special newsmaker, an unprecedented newsmaker. we will hear from two federal immigration judges this morning. before i introduce our guest, i want to take care of a little housekeeping. we have usual rules. for this particular newsmaker we have unusual rules. the usual are to questions each. members of the press club and any credentialed journalists may ask questions. we ask that you identify yourself and any news organization and will recognize you if you have a question. the unusual rules -- i should say that our guests, although both are federal judges, they are here in the capacity as leaders of the national association of immigration judges, affiliate of the national federation of affiliates and technical engineers, the union that represents not just immigration judges but other judges like administrative judges in d.c. and social security judges and others in the private sector. so if you quote