jamie lovegrove, thanks for hanging on there for a moment. why is south carolina the focus of attention the past week or so? guest: yeah, well, i am speaking to you all from a very loud convention center where the democratic convention is right about to get started. 21 presidential candidates. obviously when you get that much attention from the candidates, it gets a lot of attention from national, international media, thousands of folks defendant here. and of course, this is a very important early primary state. opportunity for the candidates, the electorate, iowa, new hampshire are fairly white in terms of the democratic. demographic. electoratedemocratic in 2016 was african-american. it is much more reflective than some of the other democratic come out to south carolina, so everyone is trying to make inroads here. host: so the south carolina democratic primary comes at the end of february next year, correct? guest: yes, that is right. host: last night a fish fry, jim clyburn's event in columbia with all of -- well not all of them, many of t