. >> sean: here with the recap of this historic day, jay sekulo and jamie raskin from the american way. how many times have you argued before the supreme court, jay? >> 12 oral arguments, 20 cases. >> sean: have you argued before the supreme court, jamie? >> never had that honor. >> sean: okay. let me get to one more exchange. this was a pretty stunning comment, i think, coming from justice kennedy. you know, in other words, and you, commerce in order to regulate it, pretty fascinating exchange. ending with justice scalia. >> you create congress commerce in order to regulate it? >> that's not what is going on here, justice ken deism we are not seeking to defend the lieu that basis. in this case, what is being regulated is the method of financing the purchase of health care. that itself is economic activity with substantial effects on interstate commerce -- >> so any self purchasing, anything i purchase -- you know, if i am in any market at all, my failure to purchase something in that market subjects me to regulation? >> sean: you know, jay, it was almost universal. every court observe

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jamie raskin, who's a professor and also a state senator moved a policy called b corporation, benefit corporations. and so it's a law. it's been passed in seven states. and it's going to be passed in more. that basically gives these corporations a protection against that clause that says, "your number-one mission is to produce for your shareholders." and in that case, you often do things that are bad for the public. i think this is a movement towards corporations having to meet a more thoughtful bottom line. that not only includes profits, but also includes their impact on communities and on the environment. >> you're making demands at the shareholder meetings. what are you demanding? >> a number of things. but, i think, like, we'll take, let's stick with bank of america, for instance, 'cause there'll be thousands of people at the bank of america shareholder meeting. one, write down the mortgages in your portfolio that are underwater to fair market value. secondly, we need corporations to pay their fair share of taxes. bank of america has 371 tax shelters. a number of them on the caym