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jamie raskin joins me now. so happy to have you here on a friday night. with us. i'm really sorry what happen d yesterday. can you tell the viewers what exactly happened when you were confronted by someone that's clearly disturbed? >> i never met marjorie taylor greene or properly introduced to her and she began by approaching me and asking when we were going to have hearings about the violence in the black lives matter protests and i said, we really did need to have a hearing about kyle rittenhouse and the two protesters that he shot and killed, you know, with his assault weapon and so she turned to liz choir cheney and began engaging with her. liz is the best mannered, most poised member of congress we got gave as good as she got from marjorie taylor greene and was not letting her get away with anything. so, i appreciated the fact liz stood up for our position. >> well, you both did. i think that was a pretty quick come back on your part. listen, i mean, we can kind of laugh at this because she's laughable but it's kind of scary she sounds like the home

joining me is jamie raskin of maryland. the house select committee on the january 6th attack and he was a former lead house manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump and he is a constitutional expert. congressman raskin, it is good to be with you, thank you for being with us. i want to start by understanding this concept of criminal referrals because most of us will never be subpoenaed to congress so we won't really know what are you supposed to do and what does the threat of criminal referrals mean? >> those are two different things. the criminal referral is if our select committee on january 6th comes in possession of evidence related by criminal conduct by people this the department of justice is currently unaware of, we will refer it to them. in other words, if we have crimes that took place that the doj didn't know about we will send it to them. for subpoenas, we have all of the same authority that a court would have to issue subpoenas. so if you get one of these subpoenas that is not an optional thing. t

one of those lawmakers on the january 6th committee, congressman jamie raskin will be here to talk about that. >>> and then the battle over a restrictive abortion law taking yet another turn. a federal appeals court reinstating the six week ban after it was paused for just two days. >>> but we do have to start with breaking news in the fight against coronavirus. drugmaker merck just asked the fda tore emergency use authorization of its new antiviral drug. the pill taking when symptoms the start cuts the risk of hospitalization and death in half. meantime the battle over vaccine mandates is escalating. the nation's largest sheriff's department in l.a. will not enforce a vaccine mandate saying enforcing such a mandate would result in losing as much as 10% of its workforce. it's not just l.a.. the battle has erupted in seattle, tucson and right here in new york city. then at the same time you have hundreds of thousands of u.s. service members remaining unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated as the pentagon's first vaccination deadline of november 2nd, fast approaching as well. 90% of the

i want to bring in congressman jamie raskin. what is the purpose of tonight's vote, and based on your knowledge of the committee, which has operated in somewhat bipartisan fashion, do you expect it to pass unanimously? >> it's operated in totally bipartisan fashion and it's actually the best committee i've ever been on in terms of people actually being focused on substance and not in a lot of rhetorical fire on the dias. we're receiving a report on the possibility of referring steve bannon for a criminal contempt prosecution for not showing up. you don't have the right in the united states of america if you get a subpoena from a court or from the united states congress just to blow it off and not show up. and that's precisely what he did. if he is guilty of something and he's afraid he's going to implicate himself, he's got a right to show up and invoke the fifth amendment and the privilege against self-incrimination. then we have the right to offer him immunity in advance, to confer that upon him in advance. you don't have the

we were speaking to jamie raskin.s though the financial trail, financing, bankrolling, whatever these insurrectionists were up to, might be important to all of this. >> that's what part of the power of a congressional investigation is all about. it's to subpoena and obtain the documents and evidence of whether there is money spent. where it went. who funded it. and what did it fund. of course in the case of nixon where we first at "the washington post" were able to follow the money trail and then the senate watergate committee followed the money trail and it established beyond any doubt that the conspiracy to undermine the constitution in the united states and subvert the electoral process by the president of the united states was a massive conspiracy led by richard nixon and his aides close etst to him. so if we look now, trying to nail down those corners, but we are also looking at what we know to be a massive conspiracy. led by the president of the united states and his aides and his lawyers to undermine, to have a

you will see congresswoman marjorie taylor greene approach her colleagues, liz cheney and jamie raskinasking raskin why don't you care about the american people? so what all happened there. let's talk with jamie raskin, congressman from maryland. a member of the january 6th select committee. sir, thank you for being with us this morning. what did happen? >> well, thank you for having me. i went up to congratulate liz on a splendid set of remarks she made about steve bannon's contempt. he had blown off our subpoena. and she made it clear that is intolerable in the system of rule of law. i thought she had done a great be jo. i went over to congratulate her. marjorie taylor greene, whom i don't know, i had never been properly introduced to her, when are you going to be doing about all the black lives matter protests. i tried to engage her. i said we should have some hearings about kyle rittenhouse and the two people he killed at a black lives matter and all the right wing saab toeurs who went out to commit violence against black lives matter. so she turned her attention to liz cheney. i d

jamie raskin, thank you for being here.tness i would love to see called. john eastman, that memo was terrifying. it was a practice session for what we might see in the future. just throw that name out there for you. thank you congressman. >>> up next on "the reidout" leading the charge to bring white nationalism into the main stream diving head first into a pool of white supremacists. stay with us. e supremacists stay with us people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways... increases insulin when you need it... decreases sugar... and slows food. the majority of people taking rybelsus® lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than 7. people taking rybelsus® lost up to 8 pounds. rybelsus® isn't for peopl with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple

you saw jamie raskin. you see liz cheney and adam kin zeng -- kinzinger filing in. they are seated.the select committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol will come to order. the select committee is meeting this evening to consider a report on a resolution recommending that the house of representatives find steven k. bannon in contempt of congress for refusing to compile with a subpoena duly issued by the committee to investigate the january 6th attack on the united states capitol. without objection, the chair authorized to declare the committee in recess at any time. i'll now recognize myself for an opening statement. let me start by saying that it gives me no joy that i've been forced to call this meeting. i think my colleagues feel the same way. the expectation of this committee is that all witnesses will cooperate with our investigation. witnesses who have been subpoenaed, have a legal obligation to do so. and whether you think about what we're investigating, a violent attack on the seat of our democracy perpetrated by a fellow citizen on our cons

jamie raskin now sits on the january 6 commission and joins me now. congressman raskin, it's good to have you. what can you tell us about the first rounds of interviews that are happening? >> well, i can tell you that they are voluntary witnesses coming in who are cooperating who want to describe the whole sequence of events that led both to the inside political coup against the vice president and the congress waged by the president and also the parallel insurrection, which enveloped and surrounded the coup and tried to aid that process of coercing the vice president to reject electoral college votes for the first time in american history, to declare power that's not in the constitution and that's what led to him being chased out of the body and people yelling "hang mike pence" and so on. you know, the problem with the word "coup" people think it's something that takes place against the president. this was a coup waged by the president against the vice president and against the congress. >> so you go to work every day in the united states capitol. you

we heard more about this latest action taken by congress from maryland representative jamie raskin, who sits on the january 6 select committee. >> i would say what we just saw was a unanimous bipartisan determination by the january 6 select committee to ensure that our subpoenas are observed. one in the united states of america has the right to blow up the subpoena by a court or by the united states congress. if mr. bannon wants to show up and see the fifth amendment because he will incriminate himself, he has that right. he has the authority to immunity so we would not use any evidence against him directly. that has been established by the supreme court. there are procedures for people who havete

they've held their first closed-door transcribed interviews with willing witnesses, and congressman jamie raskin, of maryland, who led the second impeachment of donald trump. sits on the commission. and he joins me now. congressman raskin, it's good to, have you what can you tell us about the first rounds of interviews that are happening? >> well, i can tell you that there are voluntary witnesses or are coming, and who are cooperating. who want to describe the whole sequence of events, that led both to the inside political coup, against the vice president and the congress, waged by the president, and also, the parallel insurrection, which enveloped in surrounded the coup, and tried to aid that process of coercing the vice president to reject electoral college votes, for the first time in american history. two to declare a power that's not in the constitution. and that's what led to him being chased out of the body. and people yelling hang mike pence. and so on. and the problem with the word coup, is people think a coup is something that takes place against a president, this was a coup waged by t

she has this confrontation with congresswoman liz cheney and congressman jamie raskin. seems to happen so much. >> she frequently comes in to committees without a mask. has to be told to put a mask on, like a child. it's disturbing. she's seeking the hot spotlight through negative attention and small people like that need to be ignored more. we have really important business to do in congress. you see democrats doing just that. whereas the majority of republicans are disregarding the rule of law. they would move forward and defund our government. they would allow us to default on our obligations and pull stunts like that as they continue the big lie. democrats on the other hand were governing. >> and i also caught up with the gop congressman, chip roy, asking him to explain why he vo voted with the vast skmajority republicans and here's what he said. can i ask you why you decided not to vote? what about your majority and you issue subpoenas? >> the premise is all wrong. i have no idea any of the debates or discussions that have occurred in this committee and it's based

. >> congressman jamie raskin is a democrat that serves on the selective committee investigating january six. he's also a member of the judiciary committee and he joins me now. congressman raskin, that memo, has attracted a lot of attention. it's incredibly controversial, it's been this owned by its author seemingly. what is your understanding of its status, and his relationship to it? >> i think it was the driving political and legislative and constitutional strategy of the political coup on january the 6th. if you look at eastman's interview with steve bannon, on the sixth, clearly steve bannon had bought into it. and it was the organizing principle of what they were doing. the whole point was to inflate the vice presidents role of the size of a goodyear blimp, unsafe for the first time in american history, the vice president could himself repudiate and reject electoral college votes, from arizona, georgia and pa, denying biden the majority, and kicking the whole thing into the house for a contingent election, where we know, the state by state voting would have favor trump. and so, pol

jamie raskin is a democrat in maryland who serves on the committee. today's vote came down, i would say roughly where i thought it was. if i had to give an over under, probably a few more republican votes than i would have guessed. what did you think? >> yeah, more republican votes than i was expecting given that kevin mccarthy was whipping the vote very hard to try to get everybody on the side of not issuing the criminal contempt referral for bannon. and so i was pleased to see there were a number of people on the republican side who voted to impeach donald trump also in this group, but there were also some new ones like nancy mace from south carolina who is my counterpart on the oversight subcommittee on civil rights and civil liberties. she just said she believes in the rule of law and how can congress with a straight face go forward and ever issue subpoenas again if we're not going to stand by our subpoenas? more power to these people who stood by the rule of law. >> yeah, nancy mace statement making the point, a good one, if you have an immunity

. >>> joining us now, january 6th select committee member, congressman jamie raskin.cnn is reporting as you just heard five trump aides at least have talked to the committee. but is that a low estimate? are there even more we don't know about? >> well, i have reason to think that leaks around that are coming from the witnesses themselves because i'm quite certain they're not coming from the committee and there are certain things that indicate it's the witnesses themselves who are speaking. look, those people are in a difficult position because donald trump, of course, is still the boss of the republican party. a lot of these people are still involved in campaigns and political work. at the same time i've got good reason to believe a number of them are horrified and scandalized by what took place on january 6th and they want to do their legal duty and their civic duty by coming forward to explain exactly what happened. so, you know, we're going to continue to encourage everybody who has relevant information to come and talk to the january 6th committee. >> i understand

. >> let's listen in to jamie raskin at the capitol. >> this is a decision for going before the grand jury and we hope mr. bannon will be held in contempt because he has held our process in contempt. you can be subpoenaed by the u.s. congress or by a court and feel like you've got a privilege against self-incrimination. then you go before the court, then you take the 5th. you plead the 5th, or if you think you're president of the united states, you plead executive privilege. but he didn't even boyther to come in and make my pleas, he just blew us off. you can't blow off the united states congress from your sofa and think you're going to get away from it. most everybody else has been directly participating or at least engaged in active good faith negotiations with our committee. everybody owes the sovereign his or her best evidence about what took place on january 6. that's what we're asking about, and we have the complete power as established by the supreme court under article 1 of the constitution to get the evidence we're seeking. >> congressman raskin, can you talk about the republ

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. >> leading off our discussion tonight is democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland, a member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack and served as lead manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump. thank you very much for joining us tonight congressman raskin. i was quite struck by chairman thompson's interview with joy reid tonight and it felt as if i could have seen whatever talking points he might have jotted for himself before that interview it seemed like it was just an index card with the words merrick garland on it. his point seems to be the effectiveness of this committee is now going to be all up to the attorney general of the united states. >> well right. it goes to the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia under ultimately attorney general garland but the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia has a legal obligation to bring this before a grand jury. in the district of columbia. so, look. steve bannon committed a crime today. people have to understand that. because it is important that people obey subpoenas they get wh

. ♪ january 6th committee grows, new reaction today from one member, congressman jamie raskin turningheat on trump aides who are threatening to defy those requests. >> we're not going to play these games that we saw during the trump administration where they treated a congressional subpoena like some kind of optional thing or some kind of hide and go seek game. that's not what it is. this is deadly serious stuff. we're asking for information, and we owe a comprehensive report to the american people. >> and joining me now, congressman mad lean dean, and former impeachment manager, we should note. let's get to chairman benny thompson who's saying the committee would issue criminal referrals to witnesses who refuse to obey subpoena deadlines. what is your reaction to this? if mark meadows decides not to testify, he could ultimately end up behind bars? >> this is deadly serious. i commend the chairman for the work he and the entire committee are doing and the serious nature with which they are taking this investigation. we owe it to democracy. what they are examining is not just a questio

. >> joining us now is jamie raskin, which has in the past two weeks subpoenaed and testified documentshe role in and knowledge of the events that day. congressman it's a pleasure to see you, thank you for making time to join us. tonight >> it's great to see rachel. >> i have to ask if the park police audio that we just played, and again that is a very small snippet of the hours that have been obtained by crew today. that was new to us. a new to the public. is that new to you and your colleagues? >> i have never heard that tape before, certainly we have spoken to park police before. the park police were valiant, and brave on january six and they were already sent for the struggle. but i have not heard that until earlier in the moment. washington d.c. has organized on a military basis, around the necessary's of circles, that was how they designed the city. they -- and clearly the insurrection showed up with military plans to attack the police at every point in the district. >> in terms of the evolving understanding of mysteriousness of that day. some of the other take that we heard today

. >> democratic congressman jamie raskin used his time on the floor to make clear that nobody gets a free pass after defying a lawful subpoena, stressing that the need for this investigation should be self-evident to every member of congress. >> we are investigating the attack on congress by domestic enemies of our constitution because we are sworn to do so by our oaths of office. in america, when you are subpoenaed to testify in court or in congress, you show up, period. if you act deliberately with sneering, cavalier contempt for the american people and their representatives, we will hold you in contempt. we will get to the truth of the violent assault on america. >> it's also been widely reported that as the vote was taking place, qanon congresswoman marjorie taylor greene crossed the aisle physically, not metaphorically, and tried to pick a fight with both raskin and cheney. according to cnn, liz cheney responded to the nonlegislating bully from georgia by saying she was a joke and referred to a previous margie comment about jewish space lasers for a source familiar with the inte

maryland democrat jamie raskin says other trump aides are working with the committee. >> a lot of people want to come forward and feel terrible about the role that they played. >> reporter: former president trump filed a lawsuit to stop the release of key documents, but president biden waived that executive privilege. those documents could be released as soon as next month. the panel has subpoenaed more than a dozen people including former white house chief of staff mamark meadows. some of them are already turning over documents and giving testimony. anne-marie? >> all right, laura podesta in new york. thank you so much, laura. >>> millions of americans could soon get an extra layer of protection against covid. the fda today is expected to give the green light to moderna and johnson & johnson's booster shots. this as a new study shows how effective the pfizer vaccine is for children. lilia luciano has more. >> reporter: just weeks before the federal government is expected to authorize the pfizer vaccine for children as young as 5, a new study shows it's more effective in kids than for ad

what inherent contempt and this is something jamie raskin has pushed, congress actually goes and sends the sergeant of arms to arrest you. they hold you. this was a practice they used emerald times in the 1790s and early 1800s. they haven't use this on capitol hill since the 1930s here. house speaker nancy pelosi indicated there is a piece of legislation written by jamie raskin considered at some point. but a lot of people capitol hill doesn't think congress has teeth. they threaten these things all the time. they even have a vote which is what they will have this afternoon. they never get the end result. that is some people like jamie raskin, john talking about may be moving at some point to inherent contempt. >> sandra: 10 minutes left in the current vote. we will probably see that hearing reconvene in the next 1. your point about nancy pelosi earlier why contempt of inherent contempt. excellent audience on that, as always. we don't take it to court, they take it to court. that was her exact words. now kevin mccarthy though. he spoke early on and in contempt with the citation, he has

and last one from the "baltimore sun" dated january 5, 2017 entitled jamie raskin not seeing challenge for trump. >> without objection. we have been told mr. keller has logged on and he is recognized for five minutes. mr. keller. >> thank you, madam chair and thank you to all our witnesses for taking time to testify before the committee today. before addressing the subject you would like to urge the majority to use its oversight power to focus on the numerous crises be in rampant unnation, the crisis on the southern border, the irresponsible way the biden administration pulled out afghanistan. skyrocketing energy prices or staggering national debt to numb a few. the price of natural gas alone is at a 10-year high. this must be addressed before winter set in and americans have to make difficult financial decisions just to heat their homes. the integrity of our elections is directly linked to the integrity of our democratic system of government at the local, state or ted levels. while proper looks protocol is essential, the matter of arizona looks audit is fundamentally a state issue. it

and the last one from "the baltimore sun" dated january 5, 2017, entitled representative jamie raskin not seeing electoral college challenge for trump. >> without objection. we have been told that mr. keller has logged on. mr. keller is now recognized for five minutes. mr. keller? >> thank you, madam chair, and thank you very much to all our witnesses for taking time to testify before the committee today. before addressing the subject of this hearing, i would like to take a moment to urge the majority to use its oversight powers to focus on any of the numerous crises facing our country, be it rampant inflation, the crisis on our southern border, the irresponsible way in which, umm, the biden administration pulled out of afghanistan, skyrocketing energy prices, or the staggering national debt, just to name a few. the price of natural gas alone is at a ten-year high. this must be addressed before winter sets in and americans have to make difficult financial decisions just to heat their homes. the integrity of our elections is directly linked to the integrity of our democratic systems of

and jamie raskin, electoral college, challenge for trump. >> and we're told that mr. keller logged on. five minutes. >> thank you, madam chair and thank you to all of our witnesses. before addressing the subject of the hearing i'd like to take a moment to give us oversight power and any of the numerous crisis facing our country, be it rampant inflation, the crisis on our southern border, the irresponsible way in which the biden administration pulled out of afghanistan, skyrocketing energy prices or the staggering national debt to name a few. the price of natural gas alone is at a 10-year high. this must be addressed before winter sets in and americans have to make difficult financial decisions, just to heat their homes. the integrity of our elections is directly linked to the integrity of our democratic system of government at the local, state, or federal level. >> while proper election protocols is essential, the matter of arizona election audit is fundamentally a state issue. it's the second time in the course of a week, that this committee has raised issues in stat

jamie raskin talked about the president's remarks earlier today. this is what he said. >> the first thing he said was that the committee should aggressively enforce our right to get people's testimony and documents. there's no problem with that. and i have no problem with him saying he hopes the department of justice will aggressively enforce the law so people don't get away with committing crimes like this. >> reporter: and congressman raskin may be oversimplifying this just a little bit. the president of the united states is more than just a citizen weighing in on the conduct of the department of justice. and president biden probably will get a level of criticism for making these remarks. but what everyone was trying to say is that he's just offering an opinion, and he's not telling the department of justice what to do. >> i think he was weighing in on a question about those who were flouting these subpoenas. i think anyone in this country would think, if they're subpoenaed, they should abide by this. are we making too big of a deal about this? >

earlier today january six committee member congressman jamie raskin democrat of maryland, said he is that the chairman to take a hard line on those who would defy subpoena orders. >> i'm advising the deployment of the full panoply of enforcement powers at the disposal the united states congress, that includes criminal content powers, cyclical contempt hours, the people govern here nobody is above the law. not a president, not a formal president, not the clinical parties. >> here's part of the problem, donald trump is now trying to breathe new life into the lie that he, and not joe biden, should somehow be sitting in the white house. trump and his allies have been trying to get help from state officials who are willing to support and act on the big lie and the false narrative. especially in states like he lost life pennsylvania, the states the attorney general charge the pirro has been sounding the alarm about trump's efforts. reports tonight in the running for governor in 2022. we are also learning more tonight about a new u.s. capitol police whistleblower. last month a former capito

. >> congressman jamie raskin, thank you very much for your time. >> thank you so much chris. >> metropolitan police officer michael fanone has been outspoken on is that to get some accountability for the attack on january six, not just themselves were beaten in tasers by the mob before hundreds of other officers there today. i want to talk to him about that house vote today see, what he thinks about the house investigation today, -- on trump's behalf, that interview, next. trump's behalf, tha interview, next. interview, next. it's a sunny day. nah, a stormy day. classical music plays. um uh, brass band, new orleans. ♪ ♪ she drives hands free... along the coast. make it palm springs. ♪ cadillac is going electric. if you want to be bold, you have to go off-script. experience the all-electric cadillac lyriq. i've been telling everyone... if you want to be bold, you have to go off-script. the secret to great teeth is having healthy gums. crest advanced gum restore. detoxifies below the gumline... and restores by helping heal gums in as little as 7 days. crest. the #1 toothpaste brand in america.

. >> a warning from january six committee member, the democratic congressman from maryland jamie raskinthe nonsense he refers to seems far from over. the twice impeached retired former president attempting to amplify his reach within new social media platform called truth social. as former gop strategist steve schmidt, says trump's truth is a hideous deception and their age cloaked in citizen malice. indeed, back with us tonight is steve schmidt, longtime political strategist who led john mccain's await campaign, since left the republican party, he is among the founders of the lincoln project, which set out, of course, to defeat trump and trumpism, a job that goes until this day. great to have you with us, i'd like to ask you a dual question, both of which i've asked several guests this week. if democracy has a clock face, if it ends at midnight, what time is it now, the second part of the question is, are the democrats, in your candidate opinion, up to this. >> let me answer the second part of that first, brian, it's good to see you. objectively, since the insurrection on january 6th,

a bipartisan vote of green and jamie raskin on the floor.others were getting the message as jeffrey clark is expected to testify before the committee this coming friday. now, clark was a key figure in trump's effort to overturn the election promoting ridiculous conspiracy theories and gunning for the attorney general job himself. joining us now is katie, co-host of money court. michael harriet and raquel willis. katie, this whole issue with steve bannon, there are two justice systems clearly because last i checked, you could not just thumb your nose at a subpoena. i don't have the right and some people, when they're being sought after by law enforcement, you could have them kicking in the door. how is it that steve bannon has the privilege to negotiate if he might want to come testify? >> well, to your point, there really shouldn't be more than one stand because the lie should be blind and apply uniformly no matter who you are, race, gender, creed, color. in this particular instance, if you're a republican, you should have joined your nine b

and i caught up with congressman jamie raskin, a member of the committee and asked him why it was sock over the u.s. capitol spontaneously, you don't attack congress in the counting of electoral college votes with no planning. that is not how it happened. there was millions of dollars in play to pay for the buses and the hotels and the meals and the accommodation of all of these people. and you know, a lost staffing of it came from people would used to work for donald trump. >> reporter: and in addition to learning how the team has been established in the committee, we've learned that some of the witnesses have been asked specific questions about where the funding came from for the funding of some of the rallies and events around the days of january 6 and on january 6 specifically. and one of the things that they want to know is where did the money come from and does is it have any specific tie to the trump campaign on the former president himself. it shows where this line of investigation is headed. >> ryan nobles. thank you for that. thomas pillac is a general council to the house

like last week when according to jamie raskin, marjorie taylor greene screamed at liz cheney followingto hold steve bannon in contempt. there's a lingering question here, which is what are we doing here? what are we going to do about this? yesterday, aoc said that -- there is a resolution in congress to investigate and expel members who helped incite the insurrection. member of the house judiciary committee, he joins me now. it's good to have you, congressman. the, i think there's a key distinction, congresswoman uses planning in that tweet. cori bush's resolution says incitement. has it been cleared by members of congress? >> it's great to be on your show again. you know, there is a fine point and i think that that's why it's so important to conduct the investigation that cori bush and so many other colleagues called for early this year. i appreciate the reporting done by rolling stone. obviously there needs to be further investigation and of course this was the entire point of the select committee, which we had hoped would be done on a bipartisan basis earlier this year, but we could

, what happens next to one city van is now up to the feds, earlier on this network january 6th jamie raskin described the next steps. >> it's that the u.s. attorney for district of columbia, u.s. attorney must go before the grand journey to demanded a mint. we think that it's very likely, given the gravity of this matter is so overwhelming, and the facts are so clear that, he just blew us off. we think the department of justice will move forward,, we're certainly not gonna let anything drag on for a ten months, nothing like that. the attorney general has given no indication of whether he'll move ahead with these charges. today during the house judiciary committee, merrick garland sidestepped a question about his intentions. >> the department recognizes the important oversight role that this committee, the house of representatives, and the senate play with respect to the executive branch. the department of justice will do what it always does and circumstances, it would apply the facts and a lot to make a decision consistent with the principles of prosecution. >> now, there are however, new s

we heard andy biggs and jamie raskin go at it within 20 minutes saying he doesn't know who won the election in arizona in 2020. >> you know what? let me play that. let me play that exchange and we'll keep talking about it on the other side because it was something. >> you accept this audit which showed that joe biden won and indeed by more votes than -- >> that is not what the audit concluded, mr. raskin. you know better than that. have you read the whole audit or cherry picked? that we would have expected to be very similar and it was -- so anything that mai anurd to -- >> i'm happy to yield to you for that. who won in arizona, donald trump or -- >> we don't know because as the audit demonstrates clearly, mr. raskin, there are a lot of issues with this election that took place. >> like a good grift there, even though the audit confirmed something else, they want to say, oh, no, there's more, there's more, there's more. >> yeah, because they're going to see what they want to see in this report. you know, these third-party contractors who had little-to-no experience in doing this kind of wor

joining us right now, democratic congressman jamie raskin. a member of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack. he also served as lead manager in the second impeachment trial of the former president. congressman raskin, appreciate you being with us. i am wondering, first of all, your reaction to president biden weighing in on this. obviously, the justice department is saying it's going to quote make its own independent decisions as they should on any prosecutions. >> look. the first thing he said was that the committee should aggressively enforce our right to get people's testimony and to get the documents we've subpoenaed. and there's no problem with that. i also don't have a problem with him as a citizen like me saying he hopes the department of justice will aggressively enforce the law so people don't get away with committing crimes like this. um, obviously, four years of donald trump has made everybody a little bit rusty in terms of executive branch relationships with the president and law enforcement and the depar

and at this point, you know, jamie raskin put it quite appropriately when he called it electoral lunacyection. we all know that. and this road they're continuing down is dangerous for our democracy. >> has the cyber ninjas, which we should always remind folks, one of its founders was a stop the steal adherent, it had access to the ballots, it made a lot of people uncomfortable. we talked to you as it went on. they actually found the very same thing that the other multiple audits found, that president joe biden won. i think they found maybe six or ten or 20 more votes for him. has that stemmed any of the suspicion about the election result? >> absolutely not. and i don't really find any indication in their reports because we know their methodology was entirely flawed so i don't know how they came up with that number but i don't have any faith in that. but the report itself was full of a lot of continued misinformation pointing out so-called anomalies, which are easily explained by election experts, but they're pointing to these anomalies to continue spreading misinformation and cast doub

on tuesday, representative jamie raskin said the committee wants to know more about the pressure pencehat extent there was an organized effort against vice president pence. and we believe that, you know, some of the actors' names have become known including john eastman who laid it out in a memo. >> reporter: eastman authored a two-page memo laying out what they've called a nonsense legal theory for republican officials to subvert the constitution and throw out president biden's victory when congress convened to count electrical college votes. eastman first tried to convince pence of the plan to kick election results back to the states during a meeting with trump in the oval office on january 4th. but eastman didn't succeed. he tried again on january 6th. >> and all we are demanding of vice president pence is this afternoon at 1:00, he let the legislatures and the state look into this so we get to the bottom of it. >> reporter: new video released tuesday shows eastman criticizing pence for not following his plan. >> why do you think mike pence didn't do it? >> because mike pence is an

jamie raskin replied in a tweet, those who defy the order will have problems.being here. let's start with what might be on congressman raskin's mind? what additional measurement of punishment if one of the former trump officials is charged? >> good morning, jonathan. as it happened, congressman raskin was also a law professor, so he knows the three options that congress has. one that you mentioned was ago the committee go to nancy pelosi and use the criminal contempt statute which is 2 usb 192. under that statute, 194, what happens is when the referral is made by pelosi to the attorney general he actually has a duty to bring it to a grand jury. and with that criminal sanction comes up to one year in prison. and up to $100,000 fine. so, that's one option. the other two options, i think you've heard about a lot of talk about this thing called inherent contempt. i'm doubtful that will be used. that's where the committee and the house would call on the sergeant at arms to imprison somebody for either not showing up to answer questions or raising documents. that doe

listen to what congressman jamie raskin told jim acosta yesterday. >> you don't knock over the u.s. wound 140 officers and storm the capitol and lay state of siege to the congress without any money being behind it. this was an expensive operation, and lots of money was spent, lots of money was raised, and we do intend to get to the bottom of the financial dimension of this attack on american democracy. >> nick, we reported that they have these groups within the committee that have specific areas of focus. the money team is called the green team. what revelations could this bring out about the insurrection? >> well, i think the planning and the operational aspect of the insurrection is something that committee has taken an interest in so far and we saw that in the subpoenas they issued for rally organizers, specifically for those on the capitol grounds to stop the steal and the ones on the -- leading up to the insurrection. looking into the money trail here what we could gain insight into is who funded these rallies and who put money down so that they could even come here in the firs

earlier tuesday, jamie raskin, told cnn the committee needs to determine to what extent there was anaying we believe some of the actors' names have become known, including john eastman, who laid it all out in a memo. jim, you raise a good point about what's actually going to happen and is he going to abide by the subpoena? >> steve bannon was subpoenaed. the house voted largely along party lines to hold him in contempt. still waiting from the justice department as to whether they follow through. this comes to the question as to if these subpoenas have real power. >> it remains an open question. i think it's reasonable to believe that there are several people who have been subpoenaed who are reluctant to abide by the subpoena, looking to the bannon case to lay out roadmap for their own case. however, jim, we know of several other people who were subpoenaed who felt very obligated to abide by those and have been cooperating with the committee. it's an open question for the people who have the means or the power to fight these subpoenas. a big question over john eastman about when that

representative jamie raskin, democrat of maryland who is a member of the committee. representative raskin, i appreciate you joining us. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me, don. >> your committee is voting, voting unanimously. they moved ahead. the full house is going to vote on contempt charges on thursday. it's a rare and serious step. so talk to me about what is at stake here? >> it's blatant contempt of the congress. we had a subpoena for him to turn over all of his documents on the 7th, and then to come and testify on the 14th. and he literally just blew us off. you know, very few americans would do that. the vast majority of people we've subpoenaed or approach have had come in and testified. very few people would think in such a sneering and derisive and contemptuous way of governmental process like that. but he did. and it's a crime in the district of columbia punishable by up to 12 months in jail for doing that. now he could come in and say, answering specific questions, i plead the fifth amendment. i might incriminate myself if i answer that. there is

committee members like adam schiff and jamie raskin saying comply or face criminal content. >> if witnesses do not show up, we will hold them in criminal content. we will vote them in contempt in the house and refer them for prosecution. >> i'm advising the deployment of the full enforcement powers of the disposal of the united states congress. that includes criminal content powers, civil contempt powers. the people govern here and no one is above the law. not a president, not a former president, not the political cronies of the former president. >> it's not as if these individuals like mark meadows are claiming they just want to debate the scope of the sub pea subpoena or that the deadlines aren't realistic or they're too busy. meadows isn't too busy. he's on fox news. doing his thing. talking about trump and still kind of publicly dodging on whether he will follow the law or not. >> listen, i'm going to let the attorneys handle off of that, laura. i can say this that when i talk to people, they say well, we've already been through two impeachments. they don't quite understand that. they k