melissa: jamie richardson, tell me about the optics of the situation. david asman is saying, let's get together at the white house i will talk for optics. obviously doesn't care about optics because he doesn't worry about what it looked like in paris. >> leadership, i think we see this in business all the time is reaching out, reaching out across the aisle to get all opinions gathered. that doesn't happen when you start off with five veto threats. you mentioned 111th congress. that was the 666 congress, because all things coming out of it were horrible, card check, cap-and-trade. those things thankfully haven't come back. we want a spirit of cooperation. american people are hungry for it. melissa: what do you think about the video, one day later. >> at the white house, right? melissa: yeah. >> the white house is safer than paris. melissa: just from optics point of view. i understand what you're saying doesn't this picture doesn't it look bad? >> no. melissa: that he doesn't care about paris but there with a basketball team? >> i'm trying not to be, you