we want to bring in jamie ruben. of all, before we get into some of what secretary clinton said earlier today, i want you to react to some of the new information that we are getting. first of all, u.s. sources telling thaws this was an attack that was planned in advance, that it was not the protests that evolved from this offensive movie against islam and the prophet, and that these were two separate groups and essentially they were not targeting the ambassador inside of licka. what does that say to you about what took place yesterday at the u.s. consulate? >> well, i think what it says is there are extremist islamic elements kind of an al qaeda of north africa that have used september 11th, yesterday, as an opportunity to attack the symbol of the united states, our consulate there, and they have used, you know, substantial weaponry to do it, and that obviously there is a terrible tragedy as a result of it. i think the crucial question is the one that you've been asking. what is the connection, if any, between that o

let me just turn this to jamie ruben. i'm curious, jamie. these are words.preciate these forceful words, condemning the attacks, is that enough? >> no, it isn't enough. look, ambassador stevens was obviously a friend of the libyan government. they saw him as a friend. he had worked in ben gauzi during the rebellion. they are feeling particularly bad, the libyans, that the closest ally in the u.s. government system was killed by libyans so they've said the right things. but now they need to do the right things. by that i mean try to assess the facts here in a serious way by determining to what extent these events are connected, to what extent this was a planned assassination or the result of violence at the consulate. to what extent this is all connected to a larger islamist extremist to exploit the date, 9/11. those are facts which none of us know right now. if the libyan government starts to do the hard work of taking this event as seriously as they should, we will know that. and frankly, i think they will. they really know this is their closest friend, in