. >> brown: jamil jaffer worked with gorsuch at the law firm and later as his law clerk and has remainedriend. jaffer now teaches at the antonin scalia law school at george mason university, named for the man who neil gorsuch may replace. >> one of the interesting things about judge gorsuch is that he really is a judge's judge, you >> brown: what does that mean, exactly? >> yeah, so he's not looking to get a particular outcome. he doesn't have a particular policy view that he wants to impose upon the law. it's applying the laws congress wrote, applying the constitution as the people who wrote it understood it. and not going outside those bounds. and so maybe that's a conservative philosophy in the sense that it's originalist, it's textualist, in the mold of, i would say, justice scalia. but also very mainstream in the sense that when you apply it to any given case, you're not going to necessarily like all the outcomes. >> brown: i understand, but it also sounds a little maybe naive in the political context we're talking about, right? >> sure. >> brown: scalia was a lightning rod on all k