c our first guest is jamil jaffer from george mason university law school and founder here to talk about things concerning china when it comes to the economy and national security. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> a little about the institute. where does the funding come from and what positions do take when it comes to china? >> we get our funding from the george mason university and family office foundation. our view on china if we acknowledge the real threat that china presents to the united states. an economic threat and internationalan security threat and to behr clear pedro the leaders of the house said they are hearing a couple of days ago that this is not about the chinese people and not not about chinese-american spirits about the chinese communist party that brutalized som' people and turned over a million uighurs to xinjiang in china's nationals with police stations that threaten them and their families back home if they don't toe the congress party line. this ise not about china the chinese people is about the communist party and their bad behavior at home an

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jamil jaffer. he was associate counsel to president george w.ush and the founder of executive of the national and executive. i should, say director of the national security institute at george mason law school. thank you for joining us. good morning, do you? thanks for having think then what are the odds? is he going to end up testifying? you know, i think it's very possible . you know what the what the judge found, and we don't have the actual ruling itself. unfortunately but with the judge found was that the executive privilege, which is what protects the president's advice that he gets from his close advisers, his cabinet like that that didn't apply and didn't borrow vice president pence's testimony. but he did find that the vice president plays this odd role between the executive and legislative branch because under the constitution, he's also the president senate. you found that that might limit some of the testimony that vice president pence has to give about the day of january 6th when he did actually talked to president trump, but his hi