i don't believe jewel jan assange is a journalist. e that when julian assange releases information that shows methods, shows who is helping the united states. that's not the same as releasing the pentagon papers which is a study showing -- >> fair enough. but you do believe roger stone met with wiki sfleeks. >> no. i believe he told me he did. >> what did he tell you. >> i was trying to reach roger. we can talk 15 times a week or cannot reach him for two weeks. i said where have you been? he said i met with julian assange. >> now he says he was joking. here is what roger stone says about this this week to "the washington post." >> i wish him no ill will, sam can man eye cli and persistently call you. >> true, by the way. >> stone said recalling nunberg had called him on a friday to ask about his plans for the weekend. i said i think i'll go to london and meet with assange. the idea i would meet with him is ridiculous on its face. >> alisyn, in "the washington post" story, i did not come out and contact josh foss si and say i want to br