jan kniffen. he's a cnbc contributor. by the way, and we're going to get it -- tony's staying, so you get a last word later. where is the j. rogers>> that's my middle name. >> oh. did you know that? i didn't realize the rogers part. anyway, doesn't matter. >> and there's been rogers all back through my family. >> okay. on retail, here's what i want to know. jc penney, which has been sort of the company we all keep watching as -- i don't know if it's a bell weather of a return story or not. we saw what happened with best buy last year and that was an amazing story. is jcp going to be in that category a year from now? >> i came on here and talked about best buy when he made his presentation and said, this guy's got it right, it'll work. they have it right at penneys, as right as they're going to get it. but, yes, it's getting better. they had a decent christmas, a good november. they're probably 85% on the product in the store right now. they'll be 90% some time in the spring. it will get gradually better. they've got the sg & a under control. they're not going to have expense problems. their gross margin will probably run 31% here