and there was janana here r invitingly and other attorneys to go on her show to talk about that. i remember that very first interview. the microphone was stuck in my face. "as a first-year law school student, what do you think of this?" and i went, "community." that was all i could say. but i remember jan, and i have watched you for so many years progress over so many different topics. both david and janana in my opinion are the media heroes i grew of with, and they continue even today to the marvelous job of continuing to inspire everybody, bring the news, the stories, the culture forward, so it is my privilege tonight, in light of their accomplishments, to announce that for the very first time, in these awards that we are announcing tonight, that we will be announcing both of them as our winners for the lifetime achievement award finalists. [applause] congratulations. and please come on up here. [applause] [applause] >> i think that ed lee certainly knows what to do with a microphone these days. we taught him well back in the days. i do remember the asian law caucus, by the way