first you'll hear remarks from congresswoman jane harman who leads the center and imf managing director christine lagarde. >> good evening. how'd you like it? i'm jane harman the first president and ceo of the wilson center who happens to be a woman. >> and we're delighted to welcome honored guests, friends from congress and the diplomatic core. senator clinton and some very special guests. the zacaro family. it was very important to me. geraldine ferraro was a mentor to me. a special welcome to you. [ applause ] so i'm about to tell you something henry kissinger wouldn't. where to begin in the trajectory of hillary clinton's career stuns. i'm pleased to have known her and worked with her throughout much of it. while this is no retirement dinner, hear that hillary, no retirement dinner, tonight we honor you for the entire arc of your remarkable career from pioneering attorney and chair of the legal services corporation during the carter administration, a white house where jim free and i served to fist lady of arkansas to first lady of the united states to u.s. senator from new york and

jane harman will be with us later in the program. she is now the head of the wilson center. she was the lead democrat in the congress on intelligence issues. will pick up this issue with her about collation ship between the u.s. and china. as for our topic this morning, the american dream. to illustrate how frequently it conversationsog with politicians. here's the president last night in the cinco de mayo observance. let's listen. >> it is worth remembering, america is and always will be a nation of immigrants. are richer because of the men, women, and children who have come to our shores and joined our union. as we mark cinco de mayo on both sides of the border, we pay tribute to our shared heritage and our future partnerships. we honor what brings us together. we are mothers and fathers of the great generation and we will keep making sure our sons and daughters have every opportunity to realize the american dream. that is what drives me every day if. that is what i know drives a lot of you if. i looked for it to us making future progress together. host: the president just

host: our next question from for jane harman comes locally from fairfax. you're on. caller: i miss you as the intelligence center of the congress of the united states. that position is way empty. but the other question is since the body count in china is about 86 million people, wouldn't it be easier and less messy for the chinese to simply let people who disagree with their policies leave the country? guest: good question. what i think about that, yes, i actually think that opening up china in several ways, opening up the economy inside of china, opening up the government and making its processes more transparent and allowing people freely to leave are better policies. i actually think very slowly and not without bumps and hiccups, china is moving in that direction. as you know, i'm sure that the transition process to a -- the fifth generation of leadership in china, that process starts in the fall and will be finalized next january, and china watchers like joe nye who is now the head of the u.s. trilateral -- the u.s. delegation to the trilateral delegation predict

microphone the director president, and ceo of the woodrow wilson international center for scholars, jane harman. jane? >> it is my pleasure to welcome all of you to the wilson center for this important event. this is the second time at least on my watch that i have welcomed this group, many of whom are dear friends, especially mark agrast with whom i practiced law in another century in another lifetime, but many people on this podium are also very good friends and it will be exciting for all of you to hear this panel discussion. just want to make a few brief points. number one, on this is taken, yesterday, john brennan who is a deputy national security adviser and special assistant to the president, told the world for the first time that yes, in fact, the u.s. operates a drone program that will targets certain individuals under certain circumstances. he said it was very important to him and to the administration that this program be as transparent as possible and that it operate fully under the rule of law. it was a very important speech. and the lawyer in me was pleased to hear him say how imp

on the intelligence committee and much more senior jane harman at the time. and also bill clinton campaigned for him but he lost. >> yeah, and you know, andrea i think the most important thing to do, this is a year after redistricting. these districts in texas and everywhere else are not the districts these people have run in in the past. including mr. reyes. some of what you're getting is a new district. total 43,000 people voted. whef you have a tiny turnout like that, strange things or surprising things can and do happen. very quickly about ted cruz versus david dewhurst. the runoff isn't till july. look for this as a chance for the tea party to score against the establishment like they did in indiana against dick lugar. >> wasn't sarah palin on ted cruz's side in that campaign? >> she was indeed and jim demint and the club for growth. >> another victory for sarah palin in this anti-incumbent at least tea party effort against incumbents. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> see you later, chris sa little za. the death toll continues in syria. new video showing

and of course, i want to along with all of you salute our host jane harman. one of our nation's most articulate, thoughtful leaders on foreign policy and national security and now as president of the wilson center she is still shaping public debate. in addition to that, she is advising a lot of us and helping to make sure that the scholarship we need for better informed decisions is being done. she provides insights and counsel on a great range of issues. and i loved the fact that jane was just referencing that under her leadership the wilson center has become the home of the council of world women leaders. the only organization of current and former women heads of state and ministers. they are working together with the state department and others to organize a summit in the united arab emirates on women's leadership in the arab world. and jane joined me last december to launch the women in public service project to mentor emerging women leaders around the world. founded with the seven sisters colleges. jane and i are both proud graduates. she of smith and i

we're now joined by a person very involved in chinese policy, jane harman, a director here in washington. she was, of course, for years a united states congresswoman from california, and is well schooled in this high pressure how do we balance our concern with getting our relationship with china on a better footing, and this very human situation of chen guangcheng. >> i was with chris smith in beijing when hillary clinton said human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights. i respect his passion and i agree with him about forced abortions, and i think this man is -- >> it's the one child law. they have a policy if you have one kid other than you have to have abortions. >> he is a great human right's activist, we all agree on that. so how do we balance -- >> is it reasonable to demand -- >> a couple things were left off -- i don't think it's do able, i don't know what we're doing. i like the fact that we're negotiating in private. i don't think this needs to be tried on o tv or in a one party house hearing. i don't think that will lead to a good result. >> i don't kno

and then house intelligence committee ranking member jane harman discusses u.s. foreign policy and the evolving situation with chinese situation with chinese activists.

also a letter from jane harman dated february 10th, 2003.tter to the agency she said even if the videotape does not constitute an official record, that must be preserved under the law. the videotape would be the best proof that the written record is accurate. if such record is called into question in the future. the fact of distrucks wos reflect badly on the agency. so why destroy the tapes. >> there is some indication certainly from the dni, the former dni, john negroponte that he order that the tapes not be destroyed? >> the dni never told me and i never heard about that. i later learned about that later on. and in terms of what congress woman harman said, you know, she talked about perception and we took that into consideration. but we felt that the security of our officers was paramount. that's why i made the decision. >> do you have any second thoughts now? you've written the book and it's a fascinating account. we have to of course, put ourselves back in the mind-set of post- 9/11 not knowing how wide the conspiracy was, the pressure f

microphone the debt of the president and ceo of the woodrow wilson international center for scholars jane harman. jane? [applause] it is my pleasure to welcome all of you to the wilson center for this important event. this is the second time at least on my watch the lights welcome to this group many of whom are friends especially marked with whom i practiced law in another century and in another lifetime, but many people on the podium are also very good friends and it will be exciting for all of you to hear this panel discussion. just wanted a few brief points. number one on the stage yesterday, john brennan, whose a deputy national security adviser and a special assistant to the president told the world for the first time that is in fact the u.s. operates a program that targets certain individuals under certain circumstances. he said was important to him and to the administration that this program could be as transparent as possible and that it would operate fully under the rule will fall. it was a very important speech and the lawyer in me was pleased to hear him say how important it was that

introduce an call to the microphone the director, president, and ceo of the center for scholars, jane harman. [applause] >> it is my pleasure to welcome all of you to the wilson center for this important the event. this is the second time, at least on my watch, i have welcomed it as a group. many of them are dear friends. many people on this podium are good friends. it will be exciting for all of you to hear this panel discussion. i just want to make a few brief points. on this stage yesterday, john brennan who is a deputy national security adviser and special assistant to the president told the world for the first time that, yes, in fact, the u.s. operates a drone program that targets certain individuals under certain circumstances. it was very important to him and the administration that this program be as transparent as possible and it operate fully under the rule of law. it was a very important speech. the lawyer in me was pleased to hear him say how important it was that our programs operate fully under the rule of law. there has been a lot of conversation about some actions in this era

then, jane harman addresses u.s. foreign policy and the intelligence community. she will also talk about chinese activist chen guangcheng and the afghan security deal signed this week. finally, america by the numbers looks at the u.s. prison system with james lynch and michael jacobson. they will analyze the growth of the correction population, reason for imprisonment, and more. live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c- span. >> this weekend, said jones documents the war against al qaeda since 9/11. he is interviewed by toledo share. saturday night at 10:00 a.m. eastern. also, your questions and comments for tom brokaw. book tv, every weekend on cspan2. >> bin laden had a different outfits. i have to confess that i had insider knowledge. i worked on the problem of iraq. we knew bin laden personally was involved in communications, to try to bring under control others. that he was making a bridge early on to somalia. we knew he was involved in all of these things. we knew he was doing that. as a consequence, and no surprise, he was relevant. >> counter-terrorism and national