and indeed, a lots of my good friends who know syria well think exactly like jane harmon does.we should be working with the free syrian army. and army and training them and as a response to what russia is doing in iraq. and hezbollah. i don't happen to be in that camp. i tend to believe this is a sectarian civil war. in fact i know it's a sectarian civil war that stretches well beyond syria. encompasses lebanon, encompasses iraq, even down into bahrain on the persian gulf. i heard doctor brzezinski on msnbc, "morning joe" the other day, say exactly that. and i respect his opinion highly. and agree with him. >> what do you say to those, though, who argue that you've had 80,000 people die. and that america has to do something? >> america has to do something. we have to use all diplomatic channels we can. even though the russians are blocking a number of those channels. we have to be offering as much humanitarian assistance as possible. we have to be talking with all our allies in the region, including turkey, saudi arabia and qatar who are arming certain elements of the rebels an

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