jane mayer joins me now. just another jane mayer exclusive in "the new yorker." you're detailing this relationship with fox news which is significant and only last night the president was doubling down with sean hannity, amid new scrutiny of his ties to fox news in your piece. what is the import here? aside from the fact that i inappropriately ordered the pressuring of the justice department to block a major merger. >> the question is, is the president -- has he been abusing his power to help his friends rupert murdoch, the mogul over at fox, and to hurt his enemies, the people at cnn. this was an order from the president to his top economic adviser in the white house to block a deal, a very major, multibillion dollar corporate deal. if they blocked the deal it was going to hurt cnn and help fox. it seems like he's trying to punish his enemies and help his friends by using the u.s. justice department. >> another thing you cite in this story is that fox killed the stormy daniels story, that they knew about it before the election, which would be, you know, sort of

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rick, jane mayer's piece in "the new yorker" -- >> sure. >> -- about trump's anger with bill shine in which she writes, "a source close to trump says the president has been complaining that shine hasn't been aggressive enough. late last year, trump told the source shine promised me my press coverage would get better but it's gotten worse." the source says trump thought he was getting roger ailes but instead he got roger ailes' gopher. rick, can anybody be the director of communications for donald trump? >> ali, of course not. and gabe, you know, has great sourcing on these stories about how the differential between what trump expected and what shine could deliver was vast. you know, look, he didn't need bill shine as an interlock tore between himself and sean hannity. he gets phone calls from sean hannity all the time. trump is his own program director. his own communications director. he comes up with this stuff on the fly. no exquisitely laid out plan will survive contact with donald trump's twitter feed. the entire thing is contingent what trump is going to do at any given moment,

howie: one person who seemed to welcome the decision was jane mayer. she tweeted boom. trump took to twitter. dnc just lost fox news. good. then i think i will do the same thing with the fake news networks. we'll take a closer look at the new yorker's case against these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again! well now there's score!, time...from force factor,enin'. to rev your libido and maximize physical response. it's no wonder walmart offers score! in more locations than any other performance enhancer. unleash your potential in the bedroom, with score!. howie: let's take a more in-depth look at the dnc's decision to bar fox news from the presidential debates. i sat down with bret baier. welcome

howie: one person who seemed to welcome the decision was jane mayer. she tweeted boom.to twitter. dnc just lost fox news. good. then i think i will do the same thing with the fake news networks. we'll take a closer look at the new yorker's case against the network. popular street name. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? smile dad. i take medication for high blood pressure and cholesterol. but they might not be enough to protect my heart. adding bayer aspirin can further reduce the risk of another heart attack. because my second chance matters. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. we're finally going on the trip i've been promising. because with expedia, i saved when i added a hotel to our flight. ♪ so even when she outgrows her costume, we'll never outgrow the memory of our adventure together. unlock savings when you add select hotels to your existing trip. only when you book with expedia. howie: let's take a more in-depth look at the dnc

and it is a al that if you block it, would have helped cnn's rival fox. >> brangham: jane mayer of "the yorker," your current story is in the currentish sue of "the new yorker." thanks very much for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> woodruff: once declared eradicated in the united states, meles outbreaks are rattli regions of the country again this year.mo there have bee than 200 confirmed cases in just the past few months, and many are in the pacific northwest, whiched prom state of emergency in washington state. it has also led to renewed concerns about pockets of unvaccinated children there and aross the country. today, officialspoke at a senate hearing about the need to vaccinate. it included testimony from anec ohio teen, whoed to get his own vaccinations when he turned 18. ethan lindenberger tnators ieat he defied his mom, her anti-vaccination b, and others spreading that message, becaushe thought it was dangerous to himself and the public. >> for certainndividuals and organizations that spread this misinformation, they instilled fear into the public for their own gain, self

as jane mayer reported, trump also vented about we should get the justice department to stop the cnn merger. nothing was followed up on that. the fact that these conversations and these mutual relationships are happening is something that crosses a line from just access journalism to whether there is an abuse of power. >> right. and the conversations happening which we know are documented between murdoch. let me just say one more thing, angelo. i will say having watched fox news in 2003 and the run up to the iraq war, that was state tv then too. it would have made north korean programmers blush if you look at what they were doing to sell the war at that point. >> that's true. the one thing that makes that a little different is a lot of places sort of fell into the trap of bringing on military -- >> broadcasting propaganda. >> unfortunately in that case that was more of a collective problem instead of a specific one. >> gabe sherman and angelo, thank you for being with me. >>> till to come, how democrats can distinguish themselves in an ever-growing field of presidential candidates. t

has this now -- assuming that you read jane mayer's story is true, is the quid pro quo there because trump likes fox and fox likes trump? >> i mean, it's a convenient relationship. and i think that rupert murdoch has very close relationships with governments all over the world, and so why should it be any different in america? this situation with fox news as jane details in the new yorker story, there are plenty of examples that are shocking on the face of it. sean hannity attending the rally. the number of execs they share in common raises issues how close the organization is with the white house. that's not to say that previous administrations haven't had a close relationship with other media outlets in the past. just on the topic of whether any governments have raised issues with mergers before or problems, there was a situation in 2013 with the ftc was looking at google and google -- the issue was is google manipulating search results in a way that's anti-competitive. the ftc looked into that for two years and ultimately found that wasn't a problem. so folks also raised that as a

. >> first yes, i guess, is was it really the jane mayer reporting? the dnc has not given fox news a debate in a long time. i remember this being a fight ten years ago. the net roots was fighting against it. did you really need to be tipped over by the jane mayer piece? is that what did it? >> well, there were two north stars, chris, as we have been preparing for this debate. number one, i want to make sure as many people as possible see our candidates. because i believe that our views, our vision demand the respect of the majority of the american people, including people who watch fox news. people, republicans, democrats, independents have pre-existing conditions and believe that they ought to be able to keep their health care, including people who watch fox news. so we reached out to all of the media outlets, including fox news as we were preparing for these debates. our second north star principles in this these debates is to make sure that whichever network runs them ensures that our candidates are treated fairly. now, you had the video before of

discuss is the author of this new report, chief washington correspondent for "the new yorker," jane mayerdisclosure, i worked at fox news for many years and i was one of the many people quoted in jane's piece. jane, great to see you. great job on this epic 28-page article that you've written. i know that people read it with great interest, it crashed the website as i understand it and one of the big bombshell headlines in it was that president trump was more involved in trying to block that merger than we previously knew. tell us how he went about pressuring the department of justice into than justice. >> he promised the public he said he would not interfere with the justice department because that would be improper, but behind the scenes in the oval office there was a meeting where he basically ordered gary cohen who was his top economic adviser to get the justice department to file suit and stop the merger. not only did he in his own words order gary cohen to do this, he said i've told him to do it 50 times. he was saying this in front of a couple other people who were there at the time

obviously trump thought that, and there are witnesses who spoke to jane mayer at "the new yorker"s who murdoch knew that as well. that's why the story was killed according to jane mayer at "the new yorker." >> although they deny that. >> they deny it, but this is really easy. this is simple. maybe congress should subpoena my client and all of her records, and then we will see exactly what fox news had. >> have you and your client been contacted by say, house judiciary or oversight? >> not yet. but a subpoena will trump an nda. >> so you're making a little bit of news here, which why we like exclusive guests. you're saying that former fox news reporter, whichsy diana falzone. >> until it is validated by the court. >> or until she gets a subpoena. >> which you're saying would override it anyway. >> absolutely. >> so you're saying if we just had a congressman earlier in the show. if one of these congress persons wanted to subpoena your client with the power of the house, that would you say deliver what? what value would that add? . that would add -- it would add to the investigation of wh

welcome back both of you thank you and the new yorker magazine article that has the media buzzing jane mayer describe observed that as the president has been be. set by scandals congressional hearings and even talk of impeachment fox has been both his shield and his sword the white house and fox interact so seamlessly that it can be hard to determine during a particular news cycle which one is following the other's lead the playbook is unsurprising given the players among former trump. month former fox news or is now at the trump administration we have or should i say. who was the former fox news co-president more recently director of communications and deputy to housing and urban development secretary ben carson previously a fox news contributor and national security advisor john bolton a fox commentator k.t. mcfarland was deputy national security advisor for all of four months and former fox news anchor and state department spokesperson heather nauert was appointed u.n. ambassador until she withdrew after reports or immigrant nanny elected a work permit margot what's wrong with this pictur

i heard jane mayer speak about fox news. cnn,they say fox news, nbc, msnbc, it is corporate media. their bottom line is to make money. fox is about making money. msnbc and trump make them more money. cnn would be out of business if trump was not present. let's get serious. it is corporate media about making money. fox is about making money. msnbc is about making money. they are not trying to inform us. they are trying to make money. host: thank you for the call. (202) 748-8000 that is our line for democrats. (202) 748-8001 four republicans. sophia is joining us from new york. steve? yes, how are you, i don't know if you can remember, october 2018, i called you and made a comment about sarah huckabee sanders, and i said she is a robot. when judge,ne is the supreme court, when he was interviewed for the job, he was there at fox first. how they ask question what they 2015, iim because in remember, all his speech he made, he was a different person when he went to fox news. i'm going to try to make it short. i have been saying from day one, we don't have a white house. the white house i

cohn did not want to do this, according to the report, because he understood, said jane mayer of theat this would look bad, that the president would be trying to orchestrate a punishment of these big companies because he didn't like how he was covered by cnn. is the oversight committee going to want to hear from cohn, do you think? >> i haven't talked to the chairman about this yet, but i would not be surprised, because if he put his finger on this scale to influence a merger, that is an absolute abuse of power, and we all know how he feels about cnn. it would be an absolute abuse of power if this did happen. >> all right, we'll check back in with you as well, because certainly this is a new story, so we're curious to see if that is going somewhere. congresswoman robin kelly, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> a new report says that while president trump was heaping praise on north korean dictator kim jong-un during their summit last week, north korean hackers took aim at more than 100 american targets. >>> plus, despite threats of arrest, opposition leader ron guaido returns to ve

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>> this stems from the "new yorker"'s jane mayer in which she reported the president asked gary cohn,mic adviser, to meddle with the justice department in their review of the time warner/at&t merger. according to meillea mayer's re they sent a letter to william barr to investigate that and also vet whether the justice department or trump or anyone in the white house had any role in expediting the acquisition because that went through very quickly. >> one more question about jared kushner and his past life and kushner companies. there's a focus on the infusion of cash in august of 2018. what have we learned about that? >> my colleague, alaina treene spoke to maxine water's finances chairwoman and other democratic house members, all of this many told her they're interested in vetti v investigating this major cash infusion into the dead ridden, struggling property that received a huge cash infusion last summer. the wrinkle is that the firm that put the money in is from a qat qat qatari sovereign wealth fund. we don't know whether they're going to follow through on that but they're discus

. >> it seems sudden except for the jane mayer piece in "the new yorker" criticizing the relationship between fox news and the white house. it would be hardly credible that the president would respond to that. >> my guess is the president is not too worried about "the new yorker," certainly not worried about being too close to fox news. however i think there had been in recent weeks signs of discomfort on his part that there was a lack of chemistry with bill shine, that you saw that bill shine wasn't showing up for some of the major moments when a message chief would have been expected, for instance he wasn't on the trip to vietnam where the president met with kim jong-un, the north korean dictator. people saw the beginnings of distancing there. he's got this campaign job, but that's seen by some people close to the white house as kind of a face-saving gesture. >> it does seem like that in the way it was announced. ken dilanian, you were there at the manafort courthouse, and the expression of shock on the faces of all of the people on the ari melber show on msnbc when it broke, when h

among the revelations in the explosive report, investigative reporter jane mayer writes that in 2017, trump directed then-top economic adviser gary cohn to put pressure on the justice department to block at&t's $85 billion acquisition of time warner. the move was reportedly due to trump's animosity towards cnn, which is owned by time warner. cohn, however, viewed trump's order asas "highly improper" and directed thehen-chief f of staff johnhn kelly not to follow throh on it. the trump administration handily approved disney's acquisition of for $71r 7 -- fox billion. roger ailes shared key questions from the 2015 fox news hosted republican primary debate with candidate trump beforehand, including a question by then fox host megyn kelly pressing him on past misogynistic comments. the report also confirms that fox news reporter diana falzone had evidence of trump's illegal hush money payments to stormy daniels during the 2016 presidential campaign, but that her story was censured and a fox executive told her, quote "good reporting, kiddo. but rupert wants donald trump to win. so just let

a piece by jane mayer published online today the making of the fox news white house. the article describes the relationship between fox news and donald trump and explains why the 104 lies the president told on saturday will never be exposed by fox news. one conservative commentator quoted will be among our first guest tonight. jennifer ruben. she told the new yorker that fox news has morphed into something that is not everyone news. it's a mouthpiece for the president repeating what the president says no matter how false or contradictory. before the 2016 election, a foxnews.com reporter named dianna had proof that donald trump had an affair with stormy daniels and michael cohen was negotiating a proposed hush payment but quote the story didn't run. it keep being passed off from one editor to the next. at last heard from ken lacorte the head of the foxnews.com and told colleagues lacorte said good reporting but rupert wants donald trump to win so just let it go. jane mayor reports that trump said he has ranked the loyalty of many fox reporters on a scale of 1 to 10. br

about what evidence she had and what documents she had and we expect that perhaps the sources of jane mayer'she new yorker" were very good sources, although they weren't my client. we expect that those sources will be vindicated with my client's testimony. >> it's very intriguing when you put it like that. chairman cummings clearly interested in it. you're breaking the news that basically in your view, tough luck for fox news, that the material and the information she has is going to go to the congress. and then on top of that, as i mentioned to viewers of "the beat," moments ago i just sat down with and taped an interview that we haven't aired yet with keith davidson, who says that he spoke to your client when she was a fox news reporter during the campaign. so we're airing this for the first time. he would appear to corroborate this and talk about what she knew at the time that made it potentially a reportable story before the election day. let me someplace this now for the first time. take a look. >> diana falzone did contact me and she had specific details regarding stormy -- >> specific

joining me the author the magazine's chief washington correspondent, jane mayer.nks so much for being with us. it can be hard at times to tell who's actually behind the wheel in all this. whether it's fox advocating for policy positions that the president then latches on to or if it's the president advocating for policy positions that fox news ends up latching on to. >> in fact, it's impossible sometimes to tell who's really calling the tune. i spent months working on this story and talked to more than 75 people and kept looking at fox and watching trump's tweets. and it's just a constant loop back and forth and back and forth. you know? days it seems like "fox & friends" starts with a particular subject and then president trump tweets about it. some days it's the other way around. but whatever it is, it's a continuous loop that you can see. >> there's also, i mean, the number of people from fox who now work in the administration. whether it's people in actual policy positions, contributors on fox like bolton, or bill shine, who is now, you know, dealing with comm

. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ >>> this week, jane mayer at "the new yorker" reported that department when they were trying to decide whether to open an antitrust lawsuit against at&t. at&t was trying to merge with time warner, which owns, drum roll, cnn. the president has repeatedly attacked cnn at his rallies and on twitter and made cnn his number one enemy in the media. even before he was elected he said that he did not think that the at&t/time warner merger should go through. now, mind you, blocking that merger from happening would have been really bad for those companies' business, but donald trump -- from donald trump's point of view, it also would have been a kind of punishment for cnn. according to "the new yorker," donald trump as president demanded that his advisers instruct the justice department to open that antitrust investigation into at&t. a roundabout way of ordering the doj to meet out that punishment against the company that owns cnn because he doesn't like the way he's being covered. the justice department did wind up filing a lawsuit to block the at&t me

author jane mayer described it on the program last night. piece is certainly worth another look especially for all the fallout it's generating. earlier today the democratic national committee citing the report said it is excluding fox from televising any of its primary debates. late this evening, it wasn't fox that fired back but the president. his tweet reads, "democrats just blocked @foxnews from holding a debate. good. then i think i'll do the same thing with the fake news networks and the radical left democrats in the general election debates." the cycle of life. joining us now is "usa today" columnist kirsten powers. former republican presidential candidate rick santorum who's taken part in his share of debates, certainly. kirsten, does it make sense to you that the dnc would do this? i mean, an audience is an audience and there are plenty of people who watch fox news and there are responsible journalists who could ask questions. i mean, chris wallace is a tough interviewer. brett baer. does this make sense to you that the dnc would do

an example is what jane mayer has reported on with regard to the antitrust investigation regarding actually time warner and this network. those are four different baskets. if these do not lead to a premature end to the trump administration, then it doesn't surpass watergate. >> michael, i know clear qulir deep skepticism about any conspiracy with russia. i'm wondering what you make of this idea. do you agree it's just, a, too soon to know? and where are you on this? >> i agree i think literally the jury's out on this. right? it's not over yet. in watergate, if you look at -- most of the attorneys i talk toss, they count heads. they count charges. they count guilty pleas. in watergate we had 69 charged. 48 people and 20 corporations found guilty. in the mueller investigation so far only 27 people charged. only 7 people found guilty. i also didn't like in the axios piece the whole idea that they were laying out there that there was a foreign power involved. that's just not true. there's no charges of collusion, no guilty pleas on collusion. and in the end, you know, we have some russians who

one of -- there was a big jane mayer story, basically about fox but one of the sort of inferences orf the points she made that trump directed gary cohn, his then, then economic advisor to make sure that the justice department tries to kill the deal, basically takes the deal to court, time warner-at&t deal. it was such a nonsensical anecdote. it wasn't just trump told gary cohn, he told everybody. told the world. told people privately. told people publicly. neil: issue was cnn. >> he hates cnn he said it publicly, privately, it didn't matter. makrim della him knew part of the deal he would oppose the merger and came up with the rational to do it, supported by none other than than elizabeth warren. elizabeth war return agrees with donald trump and so do dozens of consumer advocates that this deal should be broken up on the grounds when you combine massive amounts of distribution which at&t has, directv, other methods of distribution, must-see content, you can use that must-see content over rival distributors to jack up prices that they will pay for it. neil: wasn't that impetus behind

rupert murdoch's embrace of trump may be a benefit business strategy, but as jane mayer notes in thatby scandals, congressional hearings and talk of impeachment, fox has been both his shield and his sword. the white house and fox interact so seamlessly that it can be hard to determine which one is following the other's lead. when fox news hosts start defending the president, they lavish him praise. and he likes to return the favor. >> laura has been great, laura ingram. >> america is back. it is shameful and bias that these presidential issues get such coverage. >> sean hannity has been a terrific supporter of what i do. >> president trump in less than two years has given power back to you and he as opened up freedom and liberty. >> sean handy, they've even gone on the campaign trail with president trump. >> and the one thing that has made and defined your presidency more than anything else, promises made, promises kept. >> this man is the tip of the spear who goes out there every day and fights for us. >> then there's that resolving door going round and round, a fox news employee as

obviously jane mayer reports that donald trump told gary cohen to talk to the because that went throughy, very quickly. that's another element that has not been focused on so much but we expect based on our reporting that's going to come into focus. >> democrats digging into every corner. coming up on "morning joe", just a week after taking on president trump in his congressional testimony, michael cohen is now taking on the president's personal business. details of a new lawsuit against the trump organization ahead on "morning joe." ♪ carl, i as my broker...invite here. what am i paying you to manage my money? it's racquetball time. ♪ carl, does your firm offer a satisfaction guarantee? like schwab does. guarantee? ♪ carl, can you remind me what you've invested my money in. it's complicated. are you asking enough questions about how your wealth is being managed? if not, talk to schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. bookers book now and ask their boss later.. [do you want breakfast or no?] [definitely breakfast.] be a booker at booking.com i'with uncontrollederson who moderate

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