jane warner has been dead for three months. it is time to act within the lot and get these folks, you have done a better job recently. they are wearing the proper uniforms, they look like they're doing what you told them to do 25 years ago. they need to go. the controller told you that. the liability of the city grows with each passing day. thank you. president mazzucco: next speaker. >> we do not go back and forth. patrol specials are controlled by the city charter. that is mandated by the voters. we can regulate patrol specials as we have done, change the rules and procedures but their existence is mandated by the charter which will require a voter referendum. thank you for your presentation this evening, mr. crew. i wondered if the department could get clarification on the three points he raised. we hear one thing and another. i apologize -- whoever can do that could ask special agent douglas what the answers are. anything further, commissioners? public comment is now closed. line item #4. >> approval of the awards committee

the jane warner parklet at castro and market in san francisco is a great place to hang out on a niceay enjoy a picnic a-foot-long sandwich, say. by the way he is naked. it's legal in san francisco to be naked outside if you are not aroused. supervisor scott weiner doesn't mind that but has had complaint naked people sit on chairs without covering their butts literally. his legislation would force naked people to cover chairs they sit in. is that really a problem? i tried to talk to a naked man about it. i want to put a microphone on you. where can i put this? that works. >> okay. >> reporter: i began by stating the obvious. you're naked. >> and you're wearing clothes. >> reporter: george davis likes to be naked in public. again, that is not at issue here. >> mr. weiner is trying to legislate what's already nudist etiquette. >> reporter: he uses his no longer needed pants to cover the seats here which would leave a mark if he didn't. >> actually from you going to hang out here because of the mesh nature of these seats, it's not very comfortable not to have a cloth barrier. >> reporter

jane harman who is now president and ceo of the woodrow wilson institute for scholars. alan green spank, governor engler -- greenspan, governor engler, david stockman, former director of omb and senator warner who is the sitting senator and also one of the gang of six and heavily, heavily involved in this issue. so we are going to talk pretty much about anything you want. i keep saying this is one of these washington policy forums when you're willing to ask whatever question, and we want to have a rich discussion. but what we do want to focus on is where the politics and economics of this issue are right now and where they're headed, and to continue the theme that we've had in the past two panels of going big. i just have to observe it's been pretty remarkable, because i did say if people disagreed with go big, they were allowed to, but it has been a pretty powerful argument for both the political and economic arguments of why urging and supporting the supercommittee to come up with a full fix is a useful and almost necessary endeavor. so, peter, over to you. >> let me start, first of all, with chairman greenspan, if i could. the economic argument here, we've had a lot of discussion about g