i'm janelle by katie holberg, she's a jewish american political commentator. she's host of the podcast, the katie hall per show. katie, it's good to have you with us tonight over what we've got a lot to talk about heger. what about this, this conflation of, of race and religion? it is, is this just in case of, of will be goldberg not being well educated and understanding that there's a difference between the 2? yes, this is, i think precisely that, i mean i think he is coming at this from a very american ameris centric perspective. the problem is that this is a discussion about the holocaust and am while i think what, what be colberg is also responding to the fact that she as a black woman at travels through the world in a different way than people who are, let's say jews travel through the world am and that's a valid point. you know, there's that question of how recognizable summons ethnicity or races, but i think she is really just what's strange to me with that in her life. let me just ask you, how is it valid though? because of it, since she said that this