it's my understanding that advocates like will tuks on the committee for disabilities and janet aidel son, they have come out publically saying they have advised bart about removing the pole. i'm hoping that all of this public feedback and all of these discussions that we are having here is not just about saving face, but that there is time to make some changes . this is a system that many of us depend on and a system that transit riders is growing nationwide and people who have depended on transit has grown to 40 percent. there is not less of us coming on to these cars, there is more of us coming onto these cars. these barriers are abhorrent to address. it's evident to me that bart has not worked with the blind community to ensure proper access. one of my colleagues stated which i think is important, you can't just pull somebody to have street and say that they know about accessibility. universal is a concept design from the ground up and decisions are made on features that can be usable and most helpful to the highest amount of people. it's also interesting to me, i thought the slide ab