happen in the past are now going to happen with double border fencing, all these agents, when janet napolitano and barack obama are in charge, when chuck schumer wrote most of the bill, senator. you got be kidding me. >> they wrote the security piece and -- >> you think they wrote that bill? >> it was because of them that we got the toughest border security enforcement that you've ever seen, that i've seen. >> you have faith that chuck schumer, dick durbin, janet napolitano, barack obama, their interest is to enforce this border. you actually believe that? >> i actually believe we'll see -- owe believe that if we did nothing, we'll have what we have now, which is de facto amnesty. >> we have de jury amnesty. >> what we have now isn't working. this offers the promise of hope. in the bill there are certain triggers that say before you go down this path to citizenship -- which, by the way, is hard-earned, 13 years, 15 years at a minimum -- >> not when hillary is a president. >> well, if we don't do anything, hillary could become president. if we work on this issue, republicans could gain strength

and talked with janet napolitano >> we really needed to move forward in our projects and we had so manyssets here that we need to protect we can't afford to be cut again. we'll let you know was we move forward lots of pieces and we hope no further cuts. and that includes my report. i think we can move right on to the public safety at mass gatherings. we put that on the agenda after the boston bombings. we have a meeting last week and many departments presented. we just ask for the police and fire to give very, very brief presentations on what we're doing to address special events but any of the rest of you who testified last meeting feel free to jump in from our prospective so i'm going to turn it over and here we go >> thank you and this is manage i think all of you know we're been doing a number of years now so we actually think about all this in advance. briefly our roll in the preevent is just bringing together the planning to help people connect and gather them up. we usually hold a planned meeting where we get everybody in the room and walk be through the plans so we don't have 3

so i don't know about janet napolitano having full say. you have congress to oversee the operations, so it's not just one person that would make the decision. but -- >> but under this amend isn't i homeland secretary janet napolitano who says, yes, the border is closed. no, it's not closed. you're not happy with that. would you prefer congress to say, yes, it's closed, 0, no, it's not closed? >> i don't know if you can trust congress either. i think two years ago they were going to put up a fence, and i still don't see any fences. but you have a big bureaucracy, many cabinet members with an interest in the border, whether it's terrorism, drugs, or the economic problem. so it is a big problem. one person should not make that decision, and if that person does, hey, let's fight it out and have congress do something about it. >> could you seal a border that is 1,900 miles long? could you seal it totally? >> no. i've been fighting this problem for 50 years, working in mexico for many, many years, you'll never secure the border you want to put u

janet napolitano will get a hang nail one day and she will decide no, we're going to have the borderrol pass out water at the border backpacks or whatever. the idea that they are going to be stopping people you can't come in. we are going to send you home. you really believe that? >> this is what you got in the deal. what conservatives got. >> we got to track the citizenship for people violating our laws, that's what we got. >> 11 million people agents in place. >> it's a hard trigger called. >> the hard trigger was not agreed to. they got rid of the hard trigger because they didn't hard trigger. defeated in the process. >> laura: do you think in hillary clinton becomes president if she does or another democrat do you think it's likely in a presidential debate hillary or the democrat nominee look at that republican candidate and say you wanted these people to be second class citizens wait for several years i want them to be citizens on january 21st, 2017. do you agree with me? do you think likelihood in the next election? it would be. this whole thing is stupid. >> let's do another h

this bill has roughly 1,000 waivers written into it, hands it all over to janet napolitano and says use your discretion to decide what to waive. it's designed to never to happen. there's a sharp contrast between this bill and the amendment i introduced that would have put really teeth into border security and would have secured the border first. this bill weakens and i'm talking about the amendment we voted on today, weakens current law regarding a border fence. it weakens current law regarding biometric security. what it says you got to show a photo i.d. sean, if anyone has ever known a teenager, it ain't hard to go a flea market and get a fake i.d. i suspect more than a few of us have some personal knowledge about how easy that is to do. current law requires biometric. this law takes that out. it weakens border security. and the most critical piece is which comes first. secure the borders first or legalize first and this bill follows the mistake of '86. >> what was your reaction the cbo report where it says wages will go down and unemployment will go up? >> in fact it predicts illegal

if you say janet napolitano has this time to come up with a man to secure the border. that doesn't mean implement the plan, it just says come up with a plan. if they're not satisfied with that, they appoint a border security commission that's job is to come up with a plan. if that fails they go back to janet napolitano again. this isn't that hard, mr. speaker. if you're serious about enforcing the border, you can that if you would give me janet napolitano's job and a president who doesn't tie my hands i would take the resources that are committed now within the 50 miles of the southern border, the southwest border, and i would get you upwards of the 99th percentile of border security within three years. maybe sooner but i think it would take half a year to get the administrative thing jump starred. i'm in the construction business. i know how to build a fence, a wall, and a fence. i know what it costs to do that. i'm not proposing we go down, i wouldn't bid such a thing but i can surely provide advice. i have designed it already a fence, a wall, and a fence with access

someone -- the person to keynote the panel as janet napolitano, who i have known for decades and decades. she will tell you that when we met, she had a perm. she was a rock star in politics in arizona, the u.s. attorney and the attorney general, and was the governor, twice, and left to take on the job where she is in her fifth year as the secretary of homeland security she will deliver keynote remarks and will be followed by a panel discussion led by a fearless national public radio reporter who was reporting on this subject and related subjects. i find this stunningly impressive. i will not mention that he is married to martha radditz. we have michael chertoff, former federal judge to -- i found when i was in congress to be a great partner. our friendship has succeeded in our old job and the first question always was, what is the right thing to do, what is the party you represent? on the panel is steven flynn, of the cost is research institute, or is about to be that. he has worn a number of hats -- and is superbly qualified to address this topic. we also have been able private sector r

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have the resources, we that the wherewithal to tack they will problem, i'm delighted to see janet napolitano up the blue program. great things happen when you have a woman leader, sort of leading the -- america has a very important role. >> you have to sanction those countries they don't have the shame respect for human rights that we do and only way to hit them is with a purse strings. >> because they do understand the financial. >> all right. let us know what you think. please follow me on twitter @bonnieerbe. from fighting trafficking to dining on $5 a day. for one week, almost 30 members of the u.s. house took what's called the snap challenge, eating on less than $5.00 per day, the amount given to snap or food stamp recipients. in the last five years, the program has doubled in cost and the house voted this week to cut food stamps by $2 billion per year. it was defeated this week. the senate version of the agriculture bill cuts much less than the house version would. but representative barbara lee and others who took the challenge say the program needs more money not less. the program is

dog riding the horse lost out to the fire breather that's where our outrage went and you know janet napolitano keeps telling us if you see something say then well bradley manning saw war crimes he tried to expose them and now he's facing life in prison it's a complete insanity only as we know today's the second day of one of the world's elite most elusive policy summits in the world no one really knows what's going on behind closed doors what do you think they're doing in their early. i'm pretty sure it looks a lot like grease the movie i think it's a lot of snapping and a lot of skipping because when you're that rich you do a lot of snapping and skipping live i thought it was but i thought it was more like i had shot. well there there's probably some of that going on but i mean you know i think the problem abby is that you have like an overgrown democracy disorder you think that we should have a say in what goes on in our country and around the world and our country's actions and that's i don't know who gave you that feeling but it's a real problem you have and i think you need to realize tha

vote for janet napolitano to secure our border. i have a feeling that people on the side of the aisle will see the light, and to the people on the other side of the aisle that may resist this, i say what this amendment does is it balances out the bill. it balances it out. it says that, yes, we're going to put the kind of border security in place that will cause the american people to -- at the same time in doing sew, we're going to put in place very tangible triggers, triggers that cannot be moved. you can't move the goalpost because of interpretation. they're there, concrete. if we meet them, people will have the path away to be the productive citizens they want to be. so this ought to satisfy people on the other side of the aisle that acknowledge we need to do both. with that, mr. president, i yield the floor. i'd love to enter into a colloquy with the senator from alabama. i know there's a lot been said but i would just urge every member of this body to take the 30 to 40 minutes -- not much in the united states senator -- on one

vote for janet napolitano to secure our borders, and in the people on the other side of the aisle that may resist this, what i say is this amendment balance out the bill. it balances it out. it says that, yes, we're going to put the kind of border security in place that will cause the american people to -- at the same time in doing so, we're going to put the n place very tangible triggers, triggers that knock be moved you. cannot move the goalpost because of interpretation. they're there, they're concrete. if we need them, people have the pathway to be the productive citizens they would like to be. so to me this amendment satisfies people on our side of the aisle that want border secure, and ought to satisfy people on the other side of the aisle that acknowledge that we need to do both. with that, mr. president, i yield the floor. i'd love to enter into a colloquy with the senator from alabama. i know there's a lot been said but i would just urge every member of this body to take the 30 to 40 minutes, not much in the united states senator on one of the biggest issues we have dealt with

homeland security secretary janet napolitano stayed biggest threats are cybersecurity threats. this is an hour and 20 minutes. >> gamp, so much for starting on time. welcome to the wilson center. i'm jane harman. director, president and c.e.o., and this is a national conversation of great importance and one i feel i have been living for the last couple decades. imagine the local howard general ration facility in your hometown. you know where it is and it's got a fence and a few guards and it's safe, right? wrong. that facility like many others is probably patrolled by a system run by a private sector company connected to an internet so it can be panged easily and that automated system runs on software that could have an inadvertent law on it and could cause harm. as a former nine-term member of congress who chaired the intelligence and committees for years and before that served on our intelligence committee for four years i i can tell dwhrow his scenario -- t has kept us up at night. it is very possible. but many members of the congress don't appreciate or even understand what

i thought i heard janet napolitano saying -- there has to be some reasonable something that you would> it sounded like they were gathering all of the records to look for patterns. >> stephanie: right. >> and that's not a specific thing that they are going after. >> stephanie: right. it wouldn't be hard to pick up my pattern. >> jacki schechner. >> stephanie: no liquor barn. well equally divided between jacki schechner and liquor barn. the white house said strict controls were in place to ensure they did not violate civil liberties. the intelligence community is conducting court authorized intelligence activities with the knowledge and oversight of congress. >> did you see what the "washington post" is reporting. the fbi have been tapping into internet companies to collect information. >> stephanie: so they are going how many times can she watch cody? >> it's orwellian. >> yeah, it's not good. >> stephanie: the chairman of the house intelligence committee told reporters this has been used to stop a significant terrorist attack in the united states. by dianne feinstein said it is called

we will hear from janet napolitano. this was hosted by the woodrow wilson center. this is about 120 minutes. >> so much for starting on time. this is something that we vowed to do. welcome to the wilson center. director and president and ceo, this is a national conversation of great importance, and one i feel i have been living for the last couple of decades. i imagine the local power generation facility in your hometown. this has a fence and a few guards. this is safe, right? wrong. that is probably controlled by a system that monitors the cooling elements. this is run by private sector company and is connected to the internet to be managed easily. this runs on software that could have an inadvertent flock that is exploitable by hackers, to cause us harm. ofa former nine-term member congress who chaired the security committee for many years -- i can tell you that myselfenario has kept and many others up at night. this is very possible. but any members of the congress and the public who don't appreciate or understand what our government, especially the homeland sec

the bill, i read all 847 pages and you can drive a truck in the loop holes and the wafers that janet napolitanoives. today, we find out corker and holden they are putting 40,000 new agents on the border, one problem, when asked how they are going to pay for it. we will use the money we say due to deficit reduction in the cbo report because of the bill. john cornyn was incredulous because his amendment was turned down. >> we'll have to in the final thing, they are going to have to say we'll pay for it this way. look, instead of ripping up something we don't have in front of us. >> they will ram it through, bill. that's not good. >> i say this, we need the reform, if they are indeed doing what they say on the border and pay for it, then that's a good thing. >> they are not going to do. it they didn't in 2006 when they man dated the 700 miles of fencing and in chuck shumer and dick durbin and janet fap nap and president obama are cheering on the bill which i imagine they will sign on to, that is a clue that it is not good. >> i disagree. i don't think you can vote against it. >> no, no, bill. that

meland security secretary janet napolitano has been given five years to raise the total number of tires to 20,000. experts say the hiring of some many agents could take up to 20 years. and there is the cost issue as always. according to the congressional budg offe the immigration bill would cut the defic by nearly 200 billion over the next decade. critics say that conclusion is based on washington accounting tricks using social security and medicaid perrot contributions fr newly legalized workers to fund spending elsewhere. is amazing. foundation reach retirement age the annual net cost to taxpayers will reach $160 billion paribas. now, if those numbers are rrect this is noa great ide orea remember it was the coressional budget office that initially procted obamacare would cost 900 billion a rigid years. now as they revise it further they doubled their estimates. these are very ear estimates. i think even the congression budget office would agree. an then there the little matter of loopholes. the word waiver appears in the gang of a legislation 94 times. you will be given t power to gra

vote for janet napolitano to secure our border. i have a feeling that people on this side of the aisle will see the light. and to the people on the other side of the aisle that may resist this, what i would say is what this amendment does is it balances out the bill. it balances it out. it says that, yes we're going to put the kind of border security in place that will cause the american people to trust us. at the same time in doing so, we're going to put in place very tangible triggers, triggers that cannot be moved. you can't move the goal post because of interpretation. they're there. they're concrete. if we meet them, people will have the pathway to be the kind of productive citizens that they would like to be. to me, this satisfies people on the our side of the aisle that want border. to me, it ought to satisfy people on the other side of the aisle who feel we need to do both. i'd love to enter into a colloquy with the senator from alabama. i know there's a lot that has been said, but i would urge everybody in this body to tak

homeland security secretary janet napolitano's thursday said the fast growing threat against the u.s. for cyberattacks and her department is continuing to implement cybersecurity policies will respecting civil liberties and private information. she made these remarks at an event on servers could protection at the wilson center here in washington, d.c. this is about one hour, 20 minutes. we will break away briefly at 11:00 eastern for house pro forma session. >> good afternoon. hello, everyone. please find your seats. so much for starting on time brigit something we vowed to do. but welcome to the wilson center. i am jane harman, director, president and ceo and this is a national conversation of great importance and what i personally feel i have been living for the last couple decades. imagine the local power generation facility in your home town. you know where it is because you drive by it everyday on the way to work. it has a fence and a few cards and it is safe, right? wrong. that facility like many others is probably controlled by an automated system that monitors valves and cooli

now, television interesting to me that secretary janet napolitano talked about what she called there in the end a grand experiment. he said this is the first time talking about the cybersecurity challenge. this is the first time that the united has really, in a sense, dependent on the private sector for such an important partnership role. you know, i noticed that one word we didn't hear at all in secretary janet napolitano's comments was word "mandate" or "mandatory "what a difference that was from last year when the mandatory approach was part of the discussion. the word she used instead is "incentive" but i also noticed she didn't seem 100% convinced that this approach was going to work. she referred to it an experiment, he said she wasn't completely convinced that the private sector is ready to fulfill its mission. i would like to begin with that point, i mean, i think this is a really a provocative idea that a security problem of the scope and scale that we are facing in the cyber domain, the government is really dependent -- depending on private sector to play a huge role. it se

senator rubio and they are asking me and the rest of america to trust january huh-uh pal -- janet napolitanocome up with a plan. what has been her job the last four years. she says the border is secure. why would we trust this administration to do something when we are giving up all of this and giving a path to citizenship? we hillary pete history. smart men like newt gingrich and ronald reagan were given the same deal before. the second half after amnesty was given was never followed through on. i fear the same thing is going to happen here. so secure the border first. there is no argument that can say why we are not protecting our country and securing our border. it is not just about illegals. it is about the cartels. we arrested 76 cartel members in my county with 108 guns. don't tell me the border is secure. in a post 9/11 world with the terrorist threat, this is why we need to secure our border. secure the border first and then we can have a dispassionate conversation about what we do with 11 million to 20 million illegals. >> got you. sheriff, great seeing you. thank you very much. >>

i know you screened the movie in washington, d.c., for the head of homeland security, janet napolitanos did i have on my forehead? just let them make a move, we'll take them out. >> jimmy: the idea of her going to a movie -- >> i was like don't you have to protect something? >> jimmy: making sure nobody sneaks into the theater. did you talk to her at all? >> yes, so is so funny, at the very end, she lets me know, though, she pulled me close at the end and said "never show fear." and i was never so scared in my entire life. i was like yes, ma'am -- >> jimmy: do you think she meant that sexually? >> oh, my god. >> jimmy: it is possible. >> not possible, i guess. >> jimmy: you know, i want to give you something. i have a little gift for you, a little something for your daughter. a memento from the music video that you were nice enough to shoot for us. here you go, that is for you. this is a little baby -- a little baby channing all over your tatum onesy, that is what they call them, right? [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: why do we have a feeling we'll see you squeezing into that at some

well, the homomeland secity s power to arrest people, ts departmentas become politicize under janet napolitanothey have identified in pt certain groups as extremist. people who have a problem with big government i potentially probletic, who is to say, they won't abuse this, right now the public a patience for this stuff, is decreasing. i tnk tt department of homeland security should maybe worry about some border security, if they want to focus on sething. i just think they should watch how ty treat me, when i go through security minds, not that i mind on some ds i'm loney, it is over t top to give themame power that dhs lawyer took. >> it is way over the top, we have enoughntelligence services. nsa, cia, fbi, pentagon has their own operation. d but it is very territorial this is wt bush saw, and put to effect dirtorf national intelligence t share intelligence, to make it unnessy for departments to have tirwn fiefdoms of tel, we should do more sharing, sharing on a need to know as far as want to know, we have enoug intelligence this creates moreover site for congress, they have bee diinguish in

i can't sell a border security plan where janet napolitano tells us the border is secure. i can't tell sell a border security plan when the executive can turn on and off triggers for politically expedient reasons, nor would i try to sell any of those plans. you can agree on theory on border security but disagree strongly on how it is achieved. you can agree on path of citizenship but whether border security is a condition precedent which it would be in my case, is very important distinction. i welcome the input will all these constituents and faith community. that matters greatly to me as does law enforcement. take the law enforcement for a second. house plan allows state and local law enforcement to assist if they want to, if they want to assist federal law enforcement in enforcing immigration laws. that is non-starter in the senate. senate is fine with law enforcement enforcing every other category of crime, from murder to narcotics traffick to go bank robbery but haven't gotten involved in immigration. the reason we have two bodies and reason you have debate so you can

the current gang of eight bill all depends upon janet napolitano to mitt a plan to secure the border. couple of republicans have joined with chuck schumer and president obama in supporting an amendment that they're going to say secures the border, but critically, just like he gang of eight, this new amendment allows legalization first, and then it promises possibly border security in the future, and we have seen before the border security will never work. i have an amendment pending, looks like harry reid won't let us vote on, that would secure the border first, fix the problem before any legalization will go into effect, and it's clear the obama white house won't allow that to happen because it's inpoint their political objective. >> senator, i pose a question. i was with senator paul. i said what about privatizing the bored center what about two-thirds of the border is federally owned land. either give the land to farmers or selling the land cleanly to farmers and the requirement is that they secure the border on they own. i they don't, we'll give it to someone else. how about priva

janet napolitano has been calling off the border patrol. you know that they have been calling off the border patrol. the union stated as much you can't deport people today. but tomorrow if this thing passes if it passes you are saying knap and obama are good faith actors or border enforcement and immigration? they are not going to be waiving these people across the border. it's a welcome wagon if this thing passes. >> the current secretary of homeland security has been less than helpful. >> we should hold their feet to the fire create bipartisan bill. >> hopefully the american people. >> laura: do you think chuck shuman. >> 2014 is coming. immigration reform is needed both in the 11 million ha that are here and border security. >> laura: why do you think poll shows marco rubio and jeb bush trailing hillary clinton. they are b and e big immigration reform matters. >> i tell to you with polls that do matter people that believe immigration reform is necessary and should hatch now. there is two polls where something needs to be done. if congres