thus it administrator of the but, is terrific and only cares what janet napolitano told him. he cares about disaster response and the university of florida football. [laughter] the of the touche agency cares about. but he is amazing. but he does not make the rules. he reports to the department of homeland security. and that says something. with the annual poll of a dual workers day assess employee satisfaction and the perceived leadership in their 80s and separate federal agencies that are measured in that fashion and. department of homeland security comes night he did every category but one and that is 80. >> not very reassuring. but let me ask you about the response. you became curious about this after a bomb blew been shed in two consecutive state of the redresses. we have seen the legislation proposed and passed. is it too late or not tv ad for a start? >> it is not too late but is not be enough. but you are a perfect example the air all struggling a terminally with the battle of security on the one hand and privacy on the other. we care about privacy and security in the

janet napolitano, just before she left office after five years as secretary of homeland security, janet napolitano spoke about the danger of a cyber attack. she's now the president of the university of california. i called her in researching the book, and i said, tell me, how seriously do you take the danger of a cyber attack on the power grid? and she said, very, very lightly. 80-9 0 -- very, very likely, 80-90%. the likelihood of this happening is huge. you raised the question of who can do it. i've spoken to now the director, the former director of the nsa, the national security agency, keith alexander, and he referred me to his former chief scientist, a man by the name of george cotter. cotter tells me he knows for a fact that the chinese and the russians are already inside our grid. they're there. literally with a keystroke, they could take down all or part of the grid. the iranians are probably there. we don't know for sure. here's the danger or here's the good news and the bad news. the good news is that those who have the greatest capacity -- the chinese, the russians, the irani

and janet napolitano.et me start with you, you were listening to that press conference, waiting for our discussion. how should we as viewers read a press conference like that? obviously those attorneys have a point of view. >> they have a point of view, and clients to represent. i think the thing that struck me is how much we don't know. and that's not surprising. we're still in the immediate aftermath of this horrific attack. there's a lot of information that needs to be unpacked and evidence that needs to be assembled. now we need to let law enforcement do their job and to work backwards now to see was there anything missed. are there any kind of tip-offs here that we can look at, particularly when we know about and compare with other types of cases. because one of the difficulties from a homeland security perspective and a law enforcement perspective, and you see it here, is the lack of anything overt, at least before the attacks began. that anyone can point to. so was there something perhaps less overt

janet napolitano replaced it with the threat advisory system. it's triggered only by a credible threat of a specific plot. current homeland secured jeh johnson says the bar is simply too high. >> we need a system that adequately informs the public at large, not through news leaks of joint intelligence bulltins, from leaks jobson says some intermediate alert would allow law enforcement to share threats to avoid awareness. texas iran michael mccall called for tougher screening to shut down what he called a jihadist super thierp that he says allows isil followers to easily enter the u.s. >> i can reveal the government has information to indicate that individuals tie the terrorist groups in syria have attempted to gain access to gos our country through the u.s. refugee program. >> mccall says in his opinion, the u.s. now faces the highest threaten environment since 911 with three isil inspired attacks on three continents in three weeks. still, u.s. officials incest there is no full proof way to predidn't or prevent the kind of assault that claimed 1

. >> janet napolitano replaced it with the national threat advisory system which turns out has never been used because it is triggered by only a credible threat of a specific plot. jeh johnson says the bar is too high. >> we need a system that adequately informs the public at large not through news leaks of joint intelligence bulletins, not through leaks from anonymous government officials. >> effort to raise awareness while avoiding panic. mike mckohl called for tougher screening to shut down what he called the jihadist superhighway that he said allows i.s.i.l. followers to easily enter the u.s. >> i can reveal today that the united states government has information to indicate that individuals tied to terrorist groups in syria have already attempted to gain access to our country through the u.s. refugee program. >> mccall says in his opinion the u.s. now faces the highest threat environment since 9/11 with three i.s.i.l. inspired attacks on three continents in just three weeks. still u.s. officials say there is no foolproof way to predict or prevent the attack in san bernardino or

information he had, of what others in homeland security had deleted, they thought was gone, as janet napolitano talked about connecting the dots, she forgot to mention that they had been deleting dots like crazy. i knew that phil's information was so damaging to this administration that if it were not handled properly, they would destroy the man. so what happens? after he gets an award for so much information, he used the tech system. all he did was enter data. he would like, even at social media, and if he found that somebody under consideration was in a photo graph with somebody we knew to be a radical islamist, he'd enter that information. massive amount of information out there on social media that this administration has not even availed themselves of. previously, when our embassy in emen was surrounded by huteys, radical islamist rebels, i get a call from a constituent whose son is over there and is isolated at a hotel, can't get to the embassy. and talking to a friend that had a friend, it ends up some guy's going through a training session, they set aside their hypothetical practice sce

this happened before there was jeh johnson, it might have been janet napolitano. t t the, increase in selfies over auto 508. for felt pult. this is what isis wants. what isis wants is for us not to be paying attention. there is not an employer in the world who doesn't take a look at someone's social media posts that the point before you hire them. there is not anyone you date that you don't at least google or try to look on their facebook or twitter pages to get a sense of the person. obviously, this is a problem, and i do think our bureaucracy and our laws are not keeping pace. if our bureaukrats that i think a good person. you cannot look at tashfeen malik's facebook page because you might hurt her feelings, that's a problem. >> political correctness has opened the door to her death. it really has. >> i think what they said, and i could be wrong on this, was that they couldn't look at her private direct messages to someone else. they could look at her public postings. but remember the you know, we vet these people very carefully. she was posting, i believe she w

when janet napolitano headed the dhs, she said we had to look out for veterans, pro-lifers, pro-gun people as being extremists and terrorists. >> you think they're looking at their social media? >> all the time. when the obama administration wants to look for stuff, they find it and spin it. so this is a bunch of mularkey. why is he so much more concerned about people applying for visas? >> their other defense is the numbers are too big. last year we had 10 million come into the country on visas, so they don't have the time, the manpower or the money to have somebody sit thing doing the facebook search. >> you've got two choices. if you're dealing with people in a specific age group, 18 to 34, they all have social media accounts. part of getting your visa should be opening up your accounts, turning over your passwords. employers ask for that a lot. the other thing is, if we have that many people applying that we can't check them, let's dial it and not process so many darn visas. this is what trump was talking about. let's put a pause until we can work out these problems. protecting america

in 2009, homeland security secretary janet napolitano famously labeled terrorist acts man-caused disasters. the pentagon termed the fort hood massacre an incidence of workplace violence. >> and in july the president declined to categorize mass casualty attacks at two military installations at chattanooga. leaving it to the fbi to call it terrorism. more broadly the president has refused to use the words radical islam, or islamist or jihad in describing the greater chat eng from terrorism. calling it violent extremism. >> the enemy is islamic jihad. >> the fact that our harshest kretic. the best criticism they can come up with is to criticize what the president says i think is a strong endorsement of all the actions the president has take ton keep the country safe. >> up to now the white house had wanted the attorney general and the director of the fbi to take the lead role in making the pronouncements on the san bernardino case. officials tell me tonight that president obama will speak out again and soon on these attacks. and will address them squarely as acts of terrorism. brett? >> james

we have the former -- president obama's first homeland security secretary, janet napolitano. sunday, we have the woman who is chief law enforcement officer of this country, loretta lynch. >> sunday morning. "meet the press." >> we will get an update on the investigation from the person who knows the most. >> fascinating. chuck todd, as always, thank you very much, my friend. >>> that does it for this very difficult week and this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." thomas roberts as you saw is live in san bernardino. he's up next. the all day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? what's the catch? there's no catch. you want me to give up my two aleve for six tylenol? no. for my knee pain, nothing beats my aleve. how long have you had your car insurance? i ask because i had mine for over 20 years before i switched and saved hundreds with the aarp auto insurance program from the hartford. i had done a lot of comparison shopping. the rate was like half of what i was paying. [ female announcer ] $420 is the average amount drivers save when they switch to the aarp auto insurance p