that they've had to work on now the leadership there is actually pretty young sulzberger and janet robinson a runner or young younger people young is. not young but i mean they understand that's an interesting point actually bring up chris because compared to i don't know let's say you know our t.l.'s. a number of different blogs there are much younger journalists out there is never going to tell the jury is tell the news every opinion you know right or if they have the new york times is also said well the older. stablished are less and some of these people are starting to leave and it's not only happening at a times it's at newsweek at washington oh yeah we have these huge columnists that are starting to say goodbye to a lot of the ken i think you have to plot and i think the sulzberger and janet robinson understand it but again it's hard it's easier to shoot the beam on because he's a good victim. they're still trying to work through that because they are young they are beefing up new york times online which is making a lot of money and getting a lot of hits the newspaper on the other han