janet skinner, who sits behind _ materialised. janet skinner, who sits behind me, _ materialised.th your colleague diane matthews, made 116 calls to the nbsc about horizon. you heard that when mr blake was questioning you today. i said to mr blake, i had limited input into that. i was there on the day of the interview when miss matthews would have had the preinterview. i was there on the day. anything to do with cause would have been done with dell back by miss matthews. —— would have been done by miss matthews. the miss matthews. -- would have been done by miss matthews.— miss matthews. -- would have been done by miss matthews. the court of a- eals done by miss matthews. the court of appeals criminal— done by miss matthews. the court of appeals criminal division _ done by miss matthews. the court of appeals criminal division announced l appeals criminal division announced when clearing mrs skinner of any wrongdoing that there had been an extraordinary failure to investigate the 116 calls she made to the nbsc in a relatively short space of time. you didn't look, did you? i persona

she didn't think that janet skinner had stolen - that janet skinner had stolen anything at all and thereevidence of theft. are you saying she would not have discussed that with you? she would not have discussed that with ou? ., , ., ., with you? know, she would have re orted with you? know, she would have reported that — with you? know, she would have reported that the _ with you? know, she would have reported that the their _ with you? know, she would have reported that the their criminal l with you? know, she would have i reported that the their criminal law team. it was miss matthew's inquiry. i had little input into that inquiry. i was there on the day of the interview but any pre—or post—work would have been by the person in charge of the inquiry. i5 person in charge of the inquiry. is a you had nothing to do with endorsing the content of the report? no. , ., endorsing the content of the report? no. , . , ., , no. diane matthews told the inquiry that she was — no. diane matthews told the inquiry that she was shocked _ no. diane matthews told the inquiry that she was shocked when - n

about janet skinner?d that there will be a £a0,000 shortage of cash, in her interview under caution she stayed the losses had begun in january 2006, she believed that she did not declare them, she could not afford to put it right, she believed one of her members of staff had stolen the money, a belief in part predicated on the belief that such a large amount of moneyjust could not go missing. the prosecution relied on the evidence of three of the four other members of staff but were not persuaded that evidence was capable of materially advancing the prosecution case. between the 1st of january 200a on the 31st of january 2005 missus skinner made 116 cores to the national business support centre. some of those calls concerned horizon balancing on the next up about half way through it says it appears there was no evidence to corroborate the horizon evidence. no proof of an actual loss as opposed to a horizon generated shortage, no investigation into the various helpline calls made by missus skinner. we are

i am janet skinner, i worked for the post i skinner, i worked for the post office — skinner, i workedwas given a nine month custodial— £59,000. i was given a nine month custodial sentence, served three months — custodial sentence, served three months in — custodial sentence, served three months in prison and the rest on home _ months in prison and the rest on home curfew. it has affected everything in my life going forward for the _ everything in my life going forward for the past 16 years. | everything in my life going forward for the past 16 years. i am everything in my life going forward for the past 16 years.— for the past 16 years. i am behalf -- | for the past 16 years. i am behalf -- i am here _ for the past 16 years. i am behalf -- lam here on _ for the past 16 years. i am behalf -- i am here on behalf— for the past 16 years. i am behalf -- i am here on behalf of- for the past 16 years. i am behalf -- i am here on behalf of my i for the past 16 years. i am behalfi -- i am here on behalf of my father —— i am here on behalf of my father who was— —— i am here on behalf of my fath

and we can now speak to janet skinner, who you saw in that report. 2007, over an alleged shortfall of £59,000 from her post office in hull. it isa it is a pleasure to talk to you. thank you forjoining us here on bbc news. a month ago, you would not have been on bbc news if it wasn't for that itv drama that has really propelled the plight of you and so many other sub—postmasters around the country. it has been a big week for you, and if you look back on the way, how do you feel? it for you, and if you look back on the way, how do you feel?— for you, and if you look back on the way, how do you feel? it has been a whirlwind of— way, how do you feel? it has been a whirlwind of will _ way, how do you feel? it has been a whirlwind of will be, _ way, how do you feel? it has been a whirlwind of will be, if _ way, how do you feel? it has been a whirlwind of will be, if i'm _ way, how do you feel? it has been a whirlwind of will be, if i'm honest. l whirlwind of will be, if i'm honest. i think of the back of the drama and the fact that social media is just put

one particular case was talked about, janet skinner.s of a nine month custodial sentence in prison. she was convicted of false accounting due to a £59,000 shortfall and she has talked about prison being just horrendous in recent interviews. he was one of the people investigating her. he was asked about a comment he made in one of those interviews when he asked her, should you have got out of bed earlier? it was put to him that was completely inappropriate in a police style interview, why was he questioning her about her lifestyle? and his answer was, well, this is about a business, this is about the post office, this is about being professional and the reason i was asking her that question was this was about the post office was being run properly and her getting out of bed properly was relevant to this investigation. so, really, a big part of this evidence session today with steve bradshaw is notjust about the horizon it system, i think it is also about how he and other investigators treated these sub—postmasters during these investigat

here's janet skinner — she was jailed over false claims she stole thousands of pounds. the post office to be removed from both the appeals process, and the compensation schemes. you are the post office minister. will the government take back control over the post office? currently, the post office, they are orchestrating convictions, who has a conviction upturned, they are in control of compensation. they are now classified as the criminals. why are they having the power to control everything? i was talking about your case yesterday with sir david davies, who has been working on your behalf. very keen to resolve that issue and very keen to take this out of the hands of the post office. the short answer is yes, that is what we are keen to do. i cannot confirm at this moment in time but i am very keen to confirm it very shortly. you can understand why people want the post office to be taken out of the whole process. they control everything they have always controlled everything and they had been allowed to control everything. the government is sitting there saying they ar

janet skinner, who was handed a nine-month sentence in 2007 over a allegedn -- over an alleged shortfallally she got her conviction quashed. and sally stringer, who calls yourself one of the lucky ones. she was not convicted but certainly suffered significant financial losses. i was just watching you during the report, you smiled at the response from rishi sunak. it is quite a spectacle, watching politicians respond to this when they have known for so long what the problem was. >> it is. they are all liars at the end of the day. it's an election year, they will all get on the bandwagon themselves. this whole saga involves across the board, them all. the labour party, the democrats, the tories. and none of them are going to get out of this without sorting this out. christian: you have had some pretty strong things to say about ed davey. he said in that report this is a conspiracy by the post office to deceive people. he seems to be passing the back in their -- the buck in their direction. what do you make of that? >> i have a letter i wrote in 2011 to my mp, who wasarriet baldwin in wilsh

for those like janet skinner, who have had their lives ruined, it's yet another insult.r taxes but still able to pay themselves bonuses? i think it's absolutely disgraceful. they should never have been allowed to pay themselves bonuses because of everything that's going on. as more and more details of the horizon it scandal are laid bare at the ongoing public inquiry, fresh questions and fresh anger over how the post office has been run. marc ashdown, bbc news. that is all for now but to stay with us here on bbc news. hello there. although the weekend has started off on a largely fine note with some sunshine around, things will turn colder towards sunday, and into the start of next week, it looks very cold as we open the floodgates to these arctic northerlies, bringing plenty of snow showers into the north and the coast. you can see in the latter part of sunday the dark blue parts across the board. so there will be showers across coastal areas and showers in northern scotland turning increasingly wintry as we pick up that cold and strong northerly wind, and there will be

janet's dinner, alison hall and others ——janet going to janet's dinner, alison hall and others —— janet skinnerner, alison hall and others ——janet skinner. good morning to you. morning, morning, morning. i am morning to you. morning, morning, morning. iam not morning to you. morning, morning, morning. i am not sure who is who is not at the moment. i know some people are settling into the studio. you are all very welcome. we have been overwhelmed by calls and texts over the last, well since the drama went out. scott darlington, i think you can hear me 0k. did you think this would happen? this itv drama comes on and kaboom! i this would happen? this itv drama comes on and kaboom!— comes on and kaboom! i watch the drama and — comes on and kaboom! i watch the drama and thought _ comes on and kaboom! i watch the drama and thought it _ comes on and kaboom! i watch the drama and thought it was - comes on and kaboom! i watch the drama and thought it was good - comes on and kaboom! i watch the drama and thought it was good in i drama and thought it was good in everything but not for one minute did i thi

janet skinner was jailed over false claims she stole thousands of pounds. the post office to be removed from both the appeals process, and the compensation schemes. let's take a listen. you are the post office minister. will the government take back control over the post office? currently, the post office, they are orchestrating convictions, who has a conviction upturned, they are in control of compensation. they are now classified as the criminals. why are they having the power to control everything? i are they having the power to control eve hinu ? . , are they having the power to control eve hin ? ., ., ~ are they having the power to control everything?— are they having the power to control everything? i was talking about your case yesterday _ everything? i was talking about your case yesterday with _ everything? i was talking about your case yesterday with sir _ everything? i was talking about your case yesterday with sir david - case yesterday with sir david davies, — case yesterday with sir david davies, who has been working on your behalf _ davies, w

some of them were at the inquiry today to witness his testimony, including janet skinner.logy from mr bradshaw for the damage he caused. the inquiry continues on friday. you're live with bbc news. taiwan will hold presidential and parliamentary elections on saturday. the results are expected to have major implications for the island's relationship with china.under president xijinping, china has vowed to bring taiwan under its rule, and has not ruled out the use of force to achieve this goal. taiwan has accused china of intimidating its citizens in an attempt to influence saturday's elections. the us — a top ally to taiwan — says it opposes any outside influence. joining me now is steve lai in taipei. what exactly is at stake in this election? good to speak to you. china hangs heavy over the selection which takes place tomorrow across taiwan. it is worth noting that depending on who wins the selection it could impact the trajectory of the relationship that taiwan has with notjust china but the us as well because of it is worth noting that china accounts for 20% of taiwan's

for those like janet skinner, who have had their lives ruined, it's yet another insult.ndercutting their taxes but still able to pay themselves bonuses? i think it's absolutely disgraceful. they should never have been allowed to pay themselves bonuses because of everything that's going on. as more and more details of the horizon it scandal are laid bare at the ongoing public inquiry, fresh questions and fresh anger over how the post office has been run. marc ashdown, bbc news. now, it's one of the most popular shows on television, and now thousands of fans of rupaul�*s drag race are attending a huge convention, dedicated to the hit programme. more than 190 former contestants will also be appearing. here's josh parry. applause and cheering. applause and cheering start your engines, drag race—mania has descended on london. the hit tv show sees drag queens from around the world compete to be crowned the winner, and it's become a global phenomenon. for the uninitiated, think of drag race as the olympics of drag, and dragcon here at the excel is the chance for the show�*s big

now let's speak to two former post mistresses, janet skinner who was handed a nine month sentence inll of £59,000 from her post office branch in hull but eventually had her conviction quashed and sally stringer a former postmistress who calls herself as one of the lucky ones. she wasn't convicted, but still suffered significant financial losses. sally, i was just watching you as chris was reporting there, you smiled at the response from rishi sunak. it is quite a spectacle, isn't it, watching politicians respond to this when they have known so long what the problem was. it is. so long what the problem was. it is, the are so long what the problem was. it is, they are all — so long what the problem was. it is, they are all lying _ so long what the problem was. it is, they are all lying toe _ so long what the problem was. it is, they are all lying toe rags, - they are all lying toe rags, actually, at the end of the day. it's an election year, they are all going to be on the bandwagon to suit themselves, and this whole saga involves them all, across the board. the labour party, the liber

for those like janet skinner, who have had their lives ruined, it's yet another insult.uses because of everything that's going on. as more and more details of the horizon it scandal are laid bare at the ongoing public inquiry, fresh questions and fresh anger over how the post office has been run. marc ashdown, bbc news. new zealand's former prime ministerjacinda ardern has married her longterm partner clarke gayford in a small private ceremony in the north island. the wedding was originaly scheduled for early 2022 but was postponed due to the strict restrictions she's imposed during the covid pandemic. the couple have been dating for a decade and have a five—year—old daughter. stay with those on bbc news. hello. most of those have seen cloud and its but only dry. the story is on the change next week. it will turn noticeably colder with the risk of snow at lower levels in the north and we will see some severe night—time frost. forthe will see some severe night—time frost. for the start of this weekend, we've got this cold front sinking southwards. the real colder not quit

my name is janet skinner.006 for shortfall £59,000. i was given a nine month custodial sentence, served three months in prison, and the rest on home curfew. it's affected everything of my life going forward for the past 16 years. my name is scott darlington. i ran alderley edge post office for four years in 2005. i was suspended in 2009, convicted in 2010. i couldn't get a job for three and a half years after that. i couldn't afford to pay for my daughter's school uniform. i suffered awful stigma and embarrassment and financial distress ever since. and i'm glad that things have come to a head and we're able to speak about it now. hi, my name is vikas patel. i'm here on behalf of my father, vipin patel of oxford. he was wrongfully prosecuted by post office ltd in 2011 and his health is completely shattered. it's only going to get worse, and he's not yet to receive compensation. my name is tim brenner. iran a post office in pembrokeshire from 2005 until a shortfall was found in late 2009, which i was forced to p

in that itv drama so she will be listening, there are other sub—postmasters in there, i expect janet skinnerb—postmasters were treated and why they did not do more to get to the bottom of what was going on with that horizon it system. why did they see a party to present the guilt of the people they were questioning?— were questioning? some really troublin: were questioning? some really troubling stories _ were questioning? some really troubling stories from - were questioning? some really troubling stories from the - were questioning? some really i troubling stories from the victims here, there was one for example he was pregnant when she was convicted and then sent to jail. what other stories can you tell us to describe exactly what real impact this has had on people's lives and the mental health? the inquiry is broken up into stages. we have already had one whole section of the inquiry which was all about the human impact on the sub—postmaster is of this entire process. the testimony is in place is harrowing. you're talking about people losing their homes, their livelihoods, their pensions

of stories this week and each one is so shocking and affecting and we will hear from another, janet skinnere will be speaking to her in about an hour and three quarters. join us for that. there's been a huge rise in the amount of money stolen by scammers advertising fake jobs here in the uk. according to action fraud, con artists send out text and whatsapp messages to people, offering them roles with a high wage and then trick them into handing over banking and card details. dan whitworth from radio 4's money box has more. like many frauds, this is a numbers game, millions of scam messages get sent out and most are ignored. but itjust takes one to hit the right person at the right time — someone looking for a job or wanting to earn more money — for criminals to seize their opportunity. bella was caught out after she lost herjob and had posted her cv online, and after dozens of follow—up messages and phone calls over several days, she had £3,000 stolen. i didn't know if i could stop them, if there was a way of sorting it out. i had no idea how they'd left my account, really. just couldn't dr

at the bottom of page seven, we begin with a case study, the case of janet skinner.oncerns, the investigation was conducted in a professional manner at all times. 22, i do not have any other reflections about this matter. page nine, overthe reflections about this matter. page nine, over the page. we have hughie thomas. again, paragraph 25, there are no concerns, the investigation was conducted in a professional manner at all times. 26, i have no other reflections about this matter. next, scroll down the page. if we scroll over the page... the same form of words. 28 and 29, there were no concerns, the investigation was conducted in a professional manner at all times, i have no other reflections about this matter. further down that page, we get to the case of lisa brennan. paragraph 33. there were no concerns, the investigation was conducted in a professional manner at all times. over the page, please. professional manner at all times. overthe page, please. i professional manner at all times. over the page, please. i have no other reflections about this matter. lynette

for those like janet skinner, who have had their lives ruined, it's yet another insult.dercutting their taxes but still able to pay themselves bonuses? you know, i think it's absolutely disgraceful. they should never have been allowed to pay themselves bonuses because of everything that's going on. as more and more details of the horizon it scandal are laid bare at the ongoing public inquiry, fresh questions and fresh anger over how the post office has been run. marc ashdown, bbc news. january 13 is the end of traditional christmas celebrations in scandinavia and traditionally when people throughout their trees but many are getting a new lease of life in sweden as a habitat for green life. the trees are thrown off a boat into the baltic sea, like a christmas present for the fish! there's not a lot of reeds and those are really important habitats for fish that are going missing. there are plenty of places to hide in here. there are all these branches and there are the pine needles as well so they are great places to place the roe and forjuvenile fish to hide from biggerfi

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now, janet skinner, she's a subpostmaster and she was interviewed by bradshaw and diane matthews, hisnal business support centre about horizon . and bradshaw says about horizon. and bradshaw says he was only there during the interview. but everything else was done by matthews and when skinner was cleared of any wrongdoing, the court of appeal said there was an extraordinary , said there was an extraordinary, extraordinary failure to investigate. the 116 calls which were made in a relatively short space of time, and he was asked this afternoon whether or not he looked into them and he said he didn't because the inquiry was mrs. matthews . that's his mrs. matthews. that's his colleagues now . skinner was colleagues now. skinner was persuaded by a lawyer to plead guilty to false two false accounting in return for theft charges being dropped. she was advised this and she was told that she would not get a prison sentence if she did so, and in the end, she was sentenced to nine months in jail. the end, she was sentenced to nine months in jail . now he's nine months in jail. now he's been as

well, if you want to hear more from janet skinner and thousand nine sub—postmasters in that bbc breakfastmistress is later in the programme to get their stories. one of them will be at the inquiry. it is eight minutes past eight. charlie is eight minutes past eight. charlie is focusing on targets, nhs targets. in an election year it is all the more important for the political parties trying to set out their stall in terms of how they tackle them. the question is how you measure how the nhs is performing. one of those ways is with targets. almost all key nhs targets in the uk have been missed for seven years or more across the uk. analysis by bbc news focused on three key hospital targets — a&e, cancer care, and planned proceedures. it found that northern ireland and wales have never met the four—hour a&e waiting—time goal. all four nations said plans were in place to improve. researchers at oxford university say the death—rate among pregnant women and new mothers rose, during the pandemic, to its highest level in nearly two decades. thrombosis, or blood clots in the veins, was the most co

victims to come forward and, well, let's talk to one of those victims as janet who victims as janet skinnerwell, you were sent to prison nine when this prison for nine months when this was kicking off. was all kicking off. >> yeah. um, 2000 and february two thousand and seven. i was given a nine month custodial sentence . sentence. >> i mean, how do you even begin to recover from that , even all to recover from that, even all these years on? and the fact that you were accused , used and that you were accused, used and convicted of doing something that you did not do , you it's that you did not do, you it's hard to prove that you're, um, you haven't done it because obviously people just go with the mindset. >> you work in a post office, you're working with that money. you've just basically taken it andifs you've just basically taken it and it's hard to prove that you didn't . you didn't. so i think didn't. you didn't. so i think it was people just didn't believe when you said, look, i haven't taken it. so it's just it is a hard situation . but i it is a hard situation. but i think this drama

two former sub postmasters — tracey felstead and janet skinner — join us now.this attention on you finally? finding this attention on you finall ? ,, ., ., ~ finding this attention on you finally?— lti finding this attention on you l finally?_ it is. finding this attention on you finall ? ,, ., ., ~' it is. finally? quite hard work. it is. it is really hard — finally? quite hard work. it is. it is really hard but _ finally? quite hard work. it is. it is really hard but it _ finally? quite hard work. it is. it is really hard but it is _ finally? quite hard work. it is. it is really hard but it is for- finally? quite hard work. it is. it is really hard but it is for the - is really hard but it is for the good — is really hard but it is for the good it— is really hard but it is for the ood. ., , ., ~' good. it needed to be done. i think --eole good. it needed to be done. i think people needed _ good. it needed to be done. i think people needed to get a _ good. it needed to be done. i think people needed to get a better- people needed to get a better insight — peop