i'm judge janine firo. thanks for being with us tonight. you are looking live at the festival of families in philadelphia where pope francis will speak in just a few moments. we'll continue to bring you these live pictures as we talk about the pope's historic visit. i'm joined by father robert sirico, president of the aspen institute, and president and ceo of the catholic league for religious and civil rights, bill donohue. all right, gentleman, father, and bill, thank you so much for being with us. we're watching this festival of families, which i understand happens every three years. and we are in the midst of listening to these testimonials from five families, five so far, i believe there'll be one more, from around the world, who are talking about what, father? >> well, the difficulty of their lives, the strug of chastity in the case of the australian couple and looking forward to marriage and the fears of what that's going to mean, the challenges to marriage. you had the daughter of st. gianna, who died in childbirth, and she gave the