republican strategist jannette hoff man, and democratic strategist bill cacrusoe, are the democrats all swifted over this issue? he brought i.c.e. down on himself, he was on this show, and basel basically taunted the, saying i have illegals in my basemenbase. >> you are baiting i.c.e. in. >> ice is doing their job. they are cracking down on people who are here illegally. in sanctuary cities, they don't have cooperation of law enforcement professionals. saying this person has a criminal record. they have to go in and to their job, i think this is an opportunity for phil murphy, running for president in 2020. bill: is this a bad divorcethe e middle. people who want to stay here, increasing enforcement from immigration and customsthe troubl trump administ messing around, they it, obama was doing it too. >> republica can agree there needs to be a legal pathway to needs to be legal. i don't think we have agreedha daca will be a huge issue. bill: be arrested? >> i don't think what he defense right. i think as bill said, he used the people as a pawn, he did commit a crime. >> he won't be arres