and i guess we didn't punch hard enough. >> reality for janos kulcsar, the man she loved, the man nowonvicted of murdering her husband, is the almost certain prospect of spending the rest of his days in prison. in january 2012, janos was sentenced to 26 years to life. just about the same amount of time he spent with mary ann. his attorney has appealed the case. occasionally you'll still find gary mcfarland at the beach where his dad archie brought him to surf. he thinks about father and mother and forgiveness. the lesson gary is still learning from archie mcfarland. >> i still love my mother. i don't harbor bitterness or resentment. there are tons of questions you'd love to ask and get answers to, but i'm not in a position, nor in my opinion anyone is in a positn, to completely understand what's going on in somebody else's heart. >> that's all for this edition of be "dateline." i'm craig melvin, thanks for watching. >>> good morning, i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west, and here's what's happening. the president at camp david an