coming up, we will talk to eric schmidt and google ideas representative jared cohen. build get their take on everything from robots to nsa surveillance. samsung, defeating apple's bid to ban the u.s. sale of some samsung smartphones. we will talk about this ruling and what it means for the future of smartphone awards. first, jon and los angeles just spoke with blackberry's ceo. i'm dying to know what he said. >> given this companies smartphone struggle, they have moved on to to plan b. john chen is focused on plan b, less focused on mobile devices and more about managing a whole suite of different mobile devices, given a bring your own device and that trend we are seeing in workplaces. it is still not an easy business. that is where we started our conversation. >> it is very commoditized. the real competition, the real trick is to offer enterprise customers a lot more than mdm, whether it is the enterprise mobile platform, whether you build and manage applications, identity managements, bbm, messaging layers. these are all important stuff. the huge amount of market po

emily chang spoke with eric schmidt and his partner jared cohen, the director of google ideas. about google's latest project, project loon and driverless cars. >> there are more than 1.1 billion users of android, and we activate something like 1.5 million a day. android is a huge platform success. it is free. it is just extraordinary. if you like to use the battle analogy, you have a battle between the iphone and android phones. that fight is producing enormous cost savings, volume savings. consumers benefit enormously from the competition. on the self driving cars, or the driver-assisted cars, the much more likely scenario is that you'll be driving the car, but the car will be smarter. i think it will be a long time before cars are driving along without anybody in them. i had the benefit of being in a google assault-driving car. it is completely fascinating. the ride is just amazing. do you have an idea of when this could be mainstream? >> i think it depends on the level of bugs. it is very important that these cars not have a lot of bugs in them. [laughter] we are very close.

emily chang will be speaking with eric schmidt and google ideas director jared cohen. you can catch the full conversation tomorrow on "bloomberg west." 1:00 p.m. and 6:00 p.m. eastern. ♪ >> welcome back. i'm jon erlichman. elon musk to make a push to enter the pentagon satellite launch market while sitting next to his biggest competitor, who joins us now. any sparks fly between the two rocket chiefs? >> yeah. we had elon musk of spacex making the point that he wants to join military and spy satellites launch programs. right now it is dominated by united launch alliance. today musk said that he was vying for a table, sitting next to u.l.a.'s ceo. he said that using spacex would save the federal government $1 billion in tax savings for taxpayers every year, and he did that while sitting next to a competitor and said the current state of the market is unsustainable. >> the air force and other agencies are paying too high a price for lunch. the impact was protectable. space launch innovation stagnated, compared to competition. prices elevated to levels that general shelton

he and his partner jared cohen are authors of this book. i started by asking schmidt, what has changed in the year since the book was first written? >> it is interesting, if you read this book from a year ago, a lot of the things we talked about did happen. we talked about the dangers and issues. maybe the most interesting thing has been the unpredictability of political change because of technology. at the time he wrote the book, we're reasonably sure that the revolution in the tahrir square in egypt was going to produce a particular outcome. now it seems we're back to square zero. if you look at the ukraine today, no one has a proposal how to deal with syria. we have learned there is some kind of limit to technological optimism. but if you empower people, ultimately, the gun still speaks. i'm not sure it is a good answer, but it is a true answer. >> one of the things we had written about in the book is that governments in the midst of conflict will become so concerned about empowered citizens that they will set up check points to confisca

a quick programming note, emily chang will speak with eric schmidt and google ideas lateror jared cohenve stream it at bloomberg.com 7:00 eastern or catch the full conversation this thursday at 1:00 and 6:00 eastern time. coming up, google investment arm aches a big investment. we will tell you why and you can watch a streaming on your tablet phone and at bloomberg.com/ . ♪ >> welcome back. i am jon erlichman. this is bloomberg "west." online marketplaces is not new. ebay got the ball rolling in that department a few years back, but there have been a lot more specific markets that have developed. intion.com is an example the area property and real estate. google just invested $50 million in the business. jake stayed joins us now. eye ist that caught my that it sold upwards of $7 billion in real estate last year. what kind of property are we talking about? >> we have sold everything from a single-family home to a $70 million commercial property and everything in between. what we see is the internet is very good about bringing buyers and sellers together and making things transparent and

more of my interview with google executive chairman eric schmidt and jared cohen.midt, of all the things google is working on, what is the most important thing? take a listen. >> i think the biggest thing that will change is the development of more generalized artificial intelligence. because of the amount of competition that we can now assemble -- millions of computers to work on your behalf -- we can begin to transition from you asking questions to making suggestions that are quite relevant to you. the ability to do generalized knowledge means that we can not only discover facts by looking at them up, but figure out the things that you care about. we talk about this in the book. the evolution of this -- today come on your tablet or phone, you ask a question and you get an answer. he evolution of this is a device that will be this infinitely intelligent personal assistant that travels with you and helps you figure out what you need to do today and what you should know and briefs you ahead of time and make suggestions and keeps you entertained. all of that is possi

turning back to my discussion with eric schmidt and jared cohen. >> what is the state of google's relationshipith the nsa? >> what relationship? they didn't knock, they didn't call, they didn't send a letter. they just visited. [laughter] >> the latest revelations from snowden that the nsa colluded with the british to intercept chats, whatges and are the chances that happened to google video chat? >> we're looking forward to more disclosures from the nsa on this matter. >> you guys have gotten together with a bunch of different technologies to petition changes in washington. how optimistic are you that congress is going to do what you want them to? iswhat the nsa is doing covered under section 215. the race section of legal -- their series of legal arguments that allows them to record every phone call you make, by their -- i will let you anermine if that is a -- appropriate use of power. the group that google was a part of took the position that this meta-data collection was not necessary, that there were other ways of achieving their goals. issue of collecting data was problematic because of

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cynic at eric schmidt and jared cohen has been interviewed many times but i think we had a great moderator today. i hope you enjoyed. [applause] the book goes on sale paperback tomorrow with a completely different after word does he think about these issues provide holders take advantage of that. from the stevens institute of technology in hoboken new jersey, this is an hour. [applause] >> thank you. i want to thank the deans of stevens to helping to host this and to john in particular for both organizing it and the kind introduction. so i am old enough that i remember the very first time i ever saw and then used a computer. my dad took me to a science center in north carolina at the age of seven where he learned how to program this amazing device to design a smiley face out of a series of letter m's and then i printed out on one of those old-school principles with the perforated paper on the side that was my first experience with computers. since then the centrality of computers to my life but all our lives is it's almost impossible without them. for example we live in a world where every

cynic at eric schmidt and jared cohen has been interviewed many times but i think we had a great moderator today. i hope you enjoyed. [applause] the book goes on sale paperback tomorrow with a completely different after word does he think about these issues provide holders take advantage of that. come tomorrow night ended thank you everybody. have a great day. [inaudible conversations] welcome to the national constitution center. such a pleasure to see you here. i am the president of this wonderful institution in the national constitution center the only institution in america chartered by congress to disseminate information about the u.s. constitution and on a non-partisan basis. as part of the wonderful mandate, we have three goals with the museum called we the people and will be displaying the bill of rights and in america was down all the one place that summons all of the debates in a loving citizens to make up their own mind it in the last month we had such an exciting variety of town hall programs just last week we had eight debates about whether the president has the constitutional

. >> she raised up, elevated jared cohen who was a condi rice protege that had been at the state department who did a lot of innovative things with text messaging and other forms of technology to affect foreign policy. he's now the head of google ideas. he was definitely not an insider, but, you know, ended up being very crucial to what he was doing. anne marie slaughter was an academic brought in to run the policy planning office. you saw a willingness to try to address deficiencies in her operation by bringing new people in, and i think that was hard for her certainly on the campaign and previous to that. and i would argue that's one of the big things that you could see over time was just sort of opening up a little bit to new ideas and people. >> i think you brought up the new hampshire moment, too, and i think that moment, i think you guys will remember the moment where she cried a little bit. i think that was really hard for her to understand, that people really wanted to see that emotional side of her, that they wanted her to embrace the fact that she was a woman candidate. and so i t

cynic at eric schmidt and jared cohen has been interviewed many times but i think we had a great moderator today. i hope you enjoyed. [applause] the book goes on sale paperback tomorrow with a completely different after word does he think about these issues provide holders take advantage of that.